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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2011, 12:15:42 PM »

preflop is absolutely fine imo but your not THAT deep comparable to live poker where being 200-300bbs deep is pretty stnd so I think you lose a decent chunk of value by not 3betting given that alex is pretty unlikely to fold and more than capable of 4betting sightly weaker for value  or just striaght up air with stacks that are set up nicely for a 5bet jam...but I agree it's kinda cool to show up in a hands like this with premiums from time to time...

1 point to make about what I've just said though is it's important your reasons for it are balance/deception and not just cos you dont wanna get £500 in pre with QQ as you run a retty high risk of becoming very polarised, when you're only 3betting AA/KK for striaght up value and using good multi-way hands s your "light" 3bets, this not only sacrifices quite a bit of equity but it also makes you pretty easy to exploit....

on the flop not sure I love betting, although there is a decent amount of value to be had, stuff like 67/A8 and more importantly in Alex's range hands like 99-JJ...

with the flop c/r his value range is now ridiculously thin, I think KTs is prolly the WORST king he ISO's preflop, he could have 55 and 88 and ofc KK. Not sure how often he iso's 55 pre as opposed to limping behind and i imagine he'll ISO 88 nearly 100% of the time preflop, I think there is nearly no way he'd c/r KK as the combo of hands you can continue with when he holds 3 of the 4 Kings in minuscule excluding coolers. He might play AK like this but I dont think he'd take this line for value with KJ or KT, KQ he MIGHT but if your able to have QQ here you're also capable of holding AK.

So his legit value range is 55 (which I dont think he ISO'd pre 100%) 88 (prolly the most likely) and AK (I think he is more likely to chk 88 on the flop than AK) the only semi-bluff is 67. It's a wierd spot to bluff but if he thinks you rarely wouldn't 3b AA/KK/AK and might fold a hand around KT's value then he might pick this spot

I'd be calling the flop bet for defo, not sure EXACTLY how i'd be responding on future streets, would really depend
dave i'm half tempted to find your address in leeds and come round your flat. i know 100% you are in there home alone coz for sure as hell you ain t in vegas coz you are always on here. unless of course they got wifi in the brothel
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 07:07:53 PM »

Transfer $10 to Raziel2689 on stars and i'll give you the address
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2011, 07:37:17 PM »

Transfer $10 to Raziel2689 on stars and i'll give you the address
I could probably sniff it out. Was looking through his Vegas snaps on sadbook when I thought bloody hell that looks know snow. Then realised it his apartment in leeds
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 02:25:03 AM »

go to my flat atm and you;ll find an angry half-geordie in there, we drafted him in cos we couldnt afford a guard dog
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 02:33:07 PM »

go to my flat atm and you;ll find an angry half-geordie in there, we drafted him in cos we couldnt afford a guard dog
sort of hoping it would be joe partying with 15 girls all walking round naked
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2011, 12:20:24 AM »

preflop is absolutely fine imo but your not THAT deep comparable to live poker where being 200-300bbs deep is pretty stnd so I think you lose a decent chunk of value by not 3betting given that alex is pretty unlikely to fold and more than capable of 4betting sightly weaker for value  or just striaght up air with stacks that are set up nicely for a 5bet jam...but I agree it's kinda cool to show up in a hands like this with premiums from time to time...

1 point to make about what I've just said though is it's important your reasons for it are balance/deception and not just cos you dont wanna get £500 in pre with QQ as you run a retty high risk of becoming very polarised, when you're only 3betting AA/KK for striaght up value and using good multi-way hands s your "light" 3bets, this not only sacrifices quite a bit of equity but it also makes you pretty easy to exploit....

on the flop not sure I love betting, although there is a decent amount of value to be had, stuff like 67/A8 and more importantly in Alex's range hands like 99-JJ...

with the flop c/r his value range is now ridiculously thin, I think KTs is prolly the WORST king he ISO's preflop, he could have 55 and 88 and ofc KK. Not sure how often he iso's 55 pre as opposed to limping behind and i imagine he'll ISO 88 nearly 100% of the time preflop, I think there is nearly no way he'd c/r KK as the combo of hands you can continue with when he holds 3 of the 4 Kings in minuscule excluding coolers. He might play AK like this but I dont think he'd take this line for value with KJ or KT, KQ he MIGHT but if your able to have QQ here you're also capable of holding AK.

So his legit value range is 55 (which I dont think he ISO'd pre 100%) 88 (prolly the most likely) and AK (I think he is more likely to chk 88 on the flop than AK) the only semi-bluff is 67. It's a wierd spot to bluff but if he thinks you rarely wouldn't 3b AA/KK/AK and might fold a hand around KT's value then he might pick this spot

I'd be calling the flop bet for defo, not sure EXACTLY how i'd be responding on future streets, would really depend

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3-bet pre and check back the flop...BUT, once I have bet i'm not folding to Alex's check-raise. I don't think Alex will ever check-raise AK in this spot and imo he would probably, although not always, peel with 55/88. As played call the flop and reassess imo.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2011, 03:04:51 AM »

preflop is absolutely fine imo but your not THAT deep comparable to live poker where being 200-300bbs deep is pretty stnd so I think you lose a decent chunk of value by not 3betting given that alex is pretty unlikely to fold and more than capable of 4betting sightly weaker for value  or just striaght up air with stacks that are set up nicely for a 5bet jam...but I agree it's kinda cool to show up in a hands like this with premiums from time to time...

1 point to make about what I've just said though is it's important your reasons for it are balance/deception and not just cos you dont wanna get £500 in pre with QQ as you run a retty high risk of becoming very polarised, when you're only 3betting AA/KK for striaght up value and using good multi-way hands s your "light" 3bets, this not only sacrifices quite a bit of equity but it also makes you pretty easy to exploit....

on the flop not sure I love betting, although there is a decent amount of value to be had, stuff like 67/A8 and more importantly in Alex's range hands like 99-JJ...

with the flop c/r his value range is now ridiculously thin, I think KTs is prolly the WORST king he ISO's preflop, he could have 55 and 88 and ofc KK. Not sure how often he iso's 55 pre as opposed to limping behind and i imagine he'll ISO 88 nearly 100% of the time preflop, I think there is nearly no way he'd c/r KK as the combo of hands you can continue with when he holds 3 of the 4 Kings in minuscule excluding coolers. He might play AK like this but I dont think he'd take this line for value with KJ or KT, KQ he MIGHT but if your able to have QQ here you're also capable of holding AK.

So his legit value range is 55 (which I dont think he ISO'd pre 100%) 88 (prolly the most likely) and AK (I think he is more likely to chk 88 on the flop than AK) the only semi-bluff is 67. It's a wierd spot to bluff but if he thinks you rarely wouldn't 3b AA/KK/AK and might fold a hand around KT's value then he might pick this spot

I'd be calling the flop bet for defo, not sure EXACTLY how i'd be responding on future streets, would really depend

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3-bet pre and check back the flop...BUT, once I have bet i'm not folding to Alex's check-raise. I don't think Alex will ever check-raise AK in this spot and imo he would probably, although not always, peel with 55/88. As played call the flop and reassess imo.

How do you like a 5bet pre danny?

prefer a smooth call on the flop then?
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2011, 03:53:49 AM »

I will only 5-bet someones open when i've limped FTG. Then just smooth the backraise. Thought you knew all this?
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