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« on: June 23, 2011, 10:57:20 PM »

PokerStars Game #63717299144: Tournament #426010564, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (7000/14000) - 2011/06/23 22:50:48 WET [2011/06/23 17:50:48 ET]
Table '426010564 148' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: bamseditlev (154198 in chips)
Seat 2: amcgrath1uk (225380 in chips)
Seat 4: barbiegirl52 (150440 in chips)
Seat 5: Panumanu (128251 in chips)
Seat 6: Izzzmine (86716 in chips)
Seat 7: derkunde (163335 in chips)
Seat 8: labrador1964 (249599 in chips)
bamseditlev: posts the ante 1750
amcgrath1uk: posts the ante 1750
barbiegirl52: posts the ante 1750
Panumanu: posts the ante 1750
Izzzmine: posts the ante 1750
derkunde: posts the ante 1750
labrador1964: posts the ante 1750
bamseditlev: posts small blind 7000
amcgrath1uk: posts big blind 14000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amcgrath1uk [ ]
barbiegirl52: folds
Panumanu: folds
Izzzmine: folds
derkunde: raises 147585 to 161585 and is all-in
labrador1964: raises 86264 to 247849 and is all-in
bamseditlev: folds
JMĂžller is connected
amcgrath1uk: Huh??

Labrador1964 hasn't been particularly active, and we're down to approx 50 from a starting 3998.

Call or fold?
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 11:01:49 PM »

Never passing, we have a queen and another queen right?
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 11:02:55 PM »

when you say very deep you dont mean stacked I assume

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 11:03:40 PM »

what the other two said
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 11:04:07 PM »

Never passing, we have a queen and another queen right?

We do. However I found this a tough spot, especially as I'd been on the same table as Labrador for about an hour and not seen him do much.



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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 11:04:18 PM »

folding queens isnt fun

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 11:05:31 PM »

folding queens isnt fun



nope it isn't. But I couldn't see Labrador re-shoving with less than KK.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 11:10:42 PM »

folding queens isnt fun



nope it isn't. But I couldn't see Labrador re-shoving with less than KK.

You think his button re-shove range vs a 12bb cut-off shove is KK+?!

My range is going to be in the A9+, A8s+, 55+, KQ zone, villain dependant. Surely we have to assume a tight player is at least AJ+, 88+ here?

I'm snap calling TT+, AQ+ in your spot, so QQ isn't even a decision dude.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 11:12:31 PM »

folding queens isnt fun



nope it isn't. But I couldn't see Labrador re-shoving with less than KK.

Well you are kind of answering your own question here. I would be v surprised if he didn't have AK or JJ at least in his range in this spot.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 11:44:01 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 12:14:07 AM »

we have less than 30bigs?

I would desribe this as shallow personally
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 09:43:35 AM »

wtf? snap?
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 12:03:39 PM »

we have less than 30bigs?

I would desribe this as shallow personally

way less than 30 bigs.

snap obv
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »

Deep itm, sat on 16bigs, with two shoves in front of us, and we've woken up with QQ's?! Sick life.

Even if he's 8/7, he's only sat on 17bb's himself and will shove much wider than normal to go hu with the original shove. Ship it!

Results orientated threads ftmfw.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 06:32:51 PM »

Nope not results orientated.

I called and tripled up. I was heavily debating folding, mainly due to how tight the re-shover had been playing. He had AK, and was dead by the turn.
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