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[pleno1]

is there any chance of collusion between the 2 romanians?

zero

[Solaris]

Snap fold.

[Rupert]

i think pre is a trivial flat, if you 3 bet then the regs are going to flat a wider than normal range to keep the fish in the pot which also includes the top end of their range so you could get raped.

now it's just a pokerstove question prob gonna be a fold tho dont rly see what you beat

[pleno1]

Do I have these ranges really wrong?

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    23.081%     22.30%    00.78%            474072        16558.00   { 9h9s }
Hand 1:    38.459%     33.86%    04.60%            719724        97792.00   { JJ-TT, KQs, J9s+, T9s, 87s, KQo, J9o+, T9o, 87o }
Hand 2:    38.459%     33.86%    04.60%            719724        97792.00   { JJ-TT, KQs, J9s+, T9s, 87s, KQo, J9o+, T9o, 87o }

[Solaris]

No, you have the entire board wrong.

[GreekStein]

i think pre is a trivial flat, if you 3 bet then the regs are going to flat a wider than normal range to keep the fish in the pot which also includes the top end of their range so you could get raped.

Disagree

[pleno1]

No, you have the entire board wrong.

oh misclick, but the combos will be the same I think as rmanian/spantard wont be raising/3b this flop with jq kinda hands. so they have the same combos of kj as they do kq etc. actually if anything there are more straight combos with the j8.

[pleno1]

i think pre is a trivial flat, if you 3 bet then the regs are going to flat a wider than normal range to keep the fish in the pot which also includes the top end of their range so you could get raped.

Disagree

I agree with Greeky actually, I think i get 4balled wider than usual, especially for value, but not peeled so wide. If Spantards had £500 too then maybe this would be the case, but I dont think they peel broadways, pairs just because of the Spantards as the initial 6x pre and my (what will surely be a large) 3b pre will have severely bloated the pot meaning the Spantards should be in a push/fold situ.

[SuuPRlim]

MEH.

I don't like chking the flop, mainly because I really don't like chk/raising here.

I think the ranges are off, bet, raise, 3bet, if T9o is in the 3better's range than id be very suprised, the 3better just purely has to have it here because the spanaid is just going to fold so infrequently and his range to raise is prolly spot on as you have it.

even vs these ranges the maths gives you pretty conclusive fold imo.

Really dislike not donking the flop btw

[pleno1]

MEH.

I don't like chking the flop, mainly because I really don't like chk/raising here.

I think the ranges are off, bet, raise, 3bet, if T9o is in the 3better's range than id be very suprised, the 3better just purely has to have it here because the spanaid is just going to fold so infrequently and his range to raise is prolly spot on as you have it.

even vs these ranges the maths gives you pretty conclusive fold imo.

Really dislike not donking the flop btw

whats your "donking" range here Dave?

[SuuPRlim]

MEH.

I don't like chking the flop, mainly because I really don't like chk/raising here.

I think the ranges are off, bet, raise, 3bet, if T9o is in the 3better's range than id be very suprised, the 3better just purely has to have it here because the spanaid is just going to fold so infrequently and his range to raise is prolly spot on as you have it.

even vs these ranges the maths gives you pretty conclusive fold imo.

Really dislike not donking the flop btw

whats your "donking" range here Dave?

pretty much sets/striaghts/JT and might throw a cheeky QJ in there from time to time

[Leatherman]

so what happened hand is boring as fuck so far

[pleno1]

edit: cba to argue.

can delete thread if u like, i guess its an easy flop fold/call pre.

[SuuPRlim]

sterling effort though wp

[paulhouk03]

im a great lover of donk bets

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