Satellite Disaster

[kinboshi]

...or do what someone did to me in the online satellite last night with about 20 left (10 seats), and call my raise in the BB with A6 against my AQ and get there.  Who's collecting the 50p?

[Skippy]

Nits dominate winning seats in these by sitting tight late on letting others knock each other out in races. Easy fold

I understand that. I'm not doing this with ATo. I just wasn't sure whether folding the third best hand in holdem was too nitty. To answer outrageous' question, I think I'm going to have to win more pots to make it. I can't see the other table well, but I think I'm 8 of 9 on our table.

[kinboshi]

Nits dominate winning seats in these by sitting tight late on letting others knock each other out in races. Easy fold

I understand that. I'm not doing this with ATo. I just wasn't sure whether folding the third best hand in holdem was too nitty. To answer outrageous' question, I think I'm going to have to win more pots to make it. I can't see the other table well, but I think I'm 8 of 9 on our table.

I think QQ > AK

[Skippy]

Nits dominate winning seats in these by sitting tight late on letting others knock each other out in races. Easy fold

I understand that. I'm not doing this with ATo. I just wasn't sure whether folding the third best hand in holdem was too nitty. To answer outrageous' question, I think I'm going to have to win more pots to make it. I can't see the other table well, but I think I'm 8 of 9 on our table.

I think QQ > AK

In this situation, you're probably right.

[kinboshi]

I think in this sort of satellite situation, getting it in first with the blinds/stack ratio you have and the number of players remaining is key.  You don't have enough to get the initial raiser to pass - and so if you do shove, you're basically accepting that you're racing with A-high, and the risk/reward isn't worth it.

[Longy]

Fold, my range is kk+ in this spot.

[Solaris]

Fold and its not even close.

[smashedagain]

Sounds like an easy fold as he's not raising 5K with 10K behind to fold to your shove.  Pretty much folding everything other than AA or maybe KK here.  No need to get involved in this hand, and if you feel like you need to take down a few more pots I'd wait until you can be first in the pot from late position when it's more likely you'll get it through and take down the blinds and antes without a race. 

one of my stable went out 12th in the sat with KK and pretty much gave him a bollocking. i had switched the lappy off pretty much thinking he had another seat locked. think that was his 3rd this month so no biggy.

[kinboshi]

Sounds like an easy fold as he's not raising 5K with 10K behind to fold to your shove.  Pretty much folding everything other than AA or maybe KK here.  No need to get involved in this hand, and if you feel like you need to take down a few more pots I'd wait until you can be first in the pot from late position when it's more likely you'll get it through and take down the blinds and antes without a race. 

one of my stable went out 12th in the sat with KK and pretty much gave him a bollocking. i had switched the lappy off pretty much thinking he had another seat locked. think that was his 3rd this month so no biggy.

KK is stack and situation dependent, as is AA actually.  In Skippy's situation I'm playing both of those hands, and sigh-folding QQ.

[smashedagain]

Sounds like an easy fold as he's not raising 5K with 10K behind to fold to your shove.  Pretty much folding everything other than AA or maybe KK here.  No need to get involved in this hand, and if you feel like you need to take down a few more pots I'd wait until you can be first in the pot from late position when it's more likely you'll get it through and take down the blinds and antes without a race. 

one of my stable went out 12th in the sat with KK and pretty much gave him a bollocking. i had switched the lappy off pretty much thinking he had another seat locked. think that was his 3rd this month so no biggy.

KK is stack and situation dependent, as is AA actually.  In Skippy's situation I'm playing both of those hands, and sigh-folding QQ.

is it possible to pokerstove the hand guy?

[SuuPRlim]

is it possible to pokerstove the hand guy?

jassssssssssson its an ICM calc you need here not pokerstove

I think even if you'd decided you couldnt ladder into the money, folding here and open jamming  next hand is a better move

[smashedagain]

is it possible to pokerstove the hand guy?

jassssssssssson its an ICM calc you need here not pokerstove

I think even if you'd decided you couldnt ladder into the money, folding here and open jamming  next hand is a better move

ty dave. you are obv right. cant do either anyway. spoke to Jamie yesterday. told me he got his dough off.
railing the captain?

[StuartHopkin]

Sounds like an easy fold as he's not raising 5K with 10K behind to fold to your shove.  Pretty much folding everything other than AA or maybe KK here.  No need to get involved in this hand, and if you feel like you need to take down a few more pots I'd wait until you can be first in the pot from late position when it's more likely you'll get it through and take down the blinds and antes without a race. 

one of my stable went out 12th in the sat with KK and pretty much gave him a bollocking. i had switched the lappy off pretty much thinking he had another seat locked. think that was his 3rd this month so no biggy.

Herbie

Can you tell us more about your horses?

[smashedagain]

Sounds like an easy fold as he's not raising 5K with 10K behind to fold to your shove.  Pretty much folding everything other than AA or maybe KK here.  No need to get involved in this hand, and if you feel like you need to take down a few more pots I'd wait until you can be first in the pot from late position when it's more likely you'll get it through and take down the blinds and antes without a race. 

one of my stable went out 12th in the sat with KK and pretty much gave him a bollocking. i had switched the lappy off pretty much thinking he had another seat locked. think that was his 3rd this month so no biggy.

Herbie

Can you tell us more about your horses?

mostly mates that i back for sentimental reasons rather than roi. i have backed some dtd regs in deepstacks and ukipts but once again this was more for my karma than looking at filling my wallet. just lost a massive amount of my life roll in a business that has gone tits up (more my greed than anything else) so limited staking at the moment.

[Skippy]

No one has answered question 2).

Question 2:

Let's suppose that my opponent has 12,499 chips. Does that make a difference?

Also let's add question no 3: suppose it's the same situation, but the raiser is on the button and I'm in the BB. Still folding?