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« on: July 03, 2011, 07:36:02 PM »

Exact details may be sketchy, but thy're good enough for discussion.

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Folds to Villain in mp2. He's playing around 17k. Opens to 925.

I'm on the button and 3bet to 2200 with  , my favourite hand. I'm playing 15k.

Blinds fold, Villain calls.

Flop  (pot 5200)

Villain checks. I check.

Turn  (pot 5200)

Villain checks.

I bet 4000. Villain calls.

River  Two Diamonds (pot 14200)

Villain bets 4000, I sigh shove. Villain calls.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 07:40:00 PM »

My thoughts on this hand. Villain has been playing very nitty. Has a decent fold to 3bet %.

So I 3bet to get the fold. I 3bet small, as I knew that if he did have a premium hand he would certainly come back over the top.
With him having folded to a few 3bets, I felt that a 3b/f wouldn't be the dirtiest play against this individual.

He ponders a little and decides to flat. I have him on a pretty tight range once he does this. Like 99-JJ, AJ-AQ, maybe even KQ. As tight as he's been I can't see KT-KJ in his 3bet call range, especially considering the stack sizes.

Oh herro, I seem to have flopped the world.

He checks. I decide to check too, for deception.

He checks the turn, so I just size the bet on the turn to get it all in on the river.

He leads the river. *sigh*


The main reason I wanted to post this was to see how many nits would reply back with fold pre.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 07:56:15 PM »

Before your second post, I did not know what was for discussion. Now i know what your objective is, I am a nit and am folding pre.

Then as played I am not in love with your play, the river shove, why?
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 08:01:31 PM »

I'm not good enough to fold in this spot, do you feel I could/should be?

I mean I'm not calling and leaving myself with 10bigs. My plan since the flop has been to try and get it all in. I'm a man of my word. I mean really, after the 3bet/c, what can he have that's beating me?
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 08:14:44 PM »

whats wrong with 10 bigs?
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 08:17:00 PM »

I'm not good enough to fold in this spot, do you feel I could/should be?

I mean I'm not calling and leaving myself with 10bigs. My plan since the flop has been to try and get it all in. I'm a man of my word. I mean really, after the 3bet/c, what can he have that's beating me?

AK,55,KQ,KJ,K10,22,QQ

As played wiith him leading the river I think I am happy to call behind. Not too sure he is bet calling too much for us to be value shoving in this spot, especially if as you say he is a very nitty player who has just check called the turn and lead the river. I fold pre and am much happier to 3b pre with 56ss, 78ss, etc if we have him polarised to the range you stated.

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 08:24:01 PM »

Bet flop, bet turn,   it would no doubt be call river, stand up, say sigh Gg and leave feeling like you've been taken from behind!
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 08:28:40 PM »

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He ponders a little and decides to flat. I have him on a pretty tight range once he does this.

Yet despite this, we shove the river when he leads into us?

Are you aware of the WA/WB concept?
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 08:30:51 PM »

Bet flop, bet turn,   it would no doubt be call river, stand up, say sigh Gg and leave feeling like you've been taken from behind!

Oppo has made boat on turn??
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 08:31:44 PM »

Oh, and checking here isn't deception, betting is
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 08:33:40 PM »

Oh, and checking here isn't deception, betting is

so 2010. Obv checking is deception in 2011, 2012 is open jamming. Wait what year are we in?
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 10:36:37 PM »

3b pre is abso fine, sizing is good.

flop I would DEFO bet cos you look a lil more "airbally" than chking, chking kinda reps some sort of pot control/showdown value type hand like JJ/TT or w/e and there is no way he is folding ANY pair when we Cbet the flop, for deception, betting flop, chking turn and the betting river might be better if we don't think we can 3street for value, even though that is a pretty notorious value line it seems to work at live poker lol

Dont even really hate the river jam as his bet is kinda blockerish, i usually jam over these as bluffs lol so not sure if id wanna jam for value here, mmmmmm idk prolly just call seems pretty unlikely that we're beat, but the only hands we could conceivably value own is AQ/AA.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 10:37:58 PM »

and pls 3bet preflop because you think someone has a high F3b% and not cos you have your favorite hand lol

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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 11:35:22 PM »

and pls 3bet preflop because you think someone has a high F3b% and not cos you have your favorite hand lol

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 11:58:02 PM »

Pre - good

Flop - defo cbet for reasons stated above

Turn - fine

River - shove, not loving it though. didnt examine betsize in relation to pot. but my general line would be - small-med bet - shove. largebet, flat.
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