The baby is in the rice pudding.

[RED-DOG]

I went with the fold. I would have called had he jammed to isolate the sb but flatting worried me.

I figured that I was either ahead but not a huge favourite, ahead, but second favourite, or a big dog.

I only had 700 involved. If I'm putting my entire tourney on the line that early, I want to be reasonably sure that I'm ahead, with a better than evens chance of staying ahead.

As it turns out the SB had no hand no draw, just two red overs.  BB had middle pair and a flush draw.

Board came club - club.

[DMorgan]

The SB jams for 1.5x pot which yeah he can do with a set but he can also have every overpair and all the draws. Wouldn't be suprised to see him show up with a hand like 66 or 77 here either.

The flatter is slightly concerning and having some sort of read here would be helpful. Against your average villain in this tournament though its still a jam. I disagree that he's going to jam all of the draws that we're 70% against and only flat sets.

[George2Loose]

I'd be more worried if he jammed ahead of you not flatted.

Players here often flat hoping you'll fold behind not vice-versa

[the rage]

I know i always seem to find a fold on the PHA George, but that was my calculated assessment. I guess i'm giving the DTD 300 regulars far too much respect. As it happened Red-Dog got there on the river after falling behind on the turn, although i'm not sure the big blind would call the shove.
 I guess another generalization comes into play here though, which is, 'if in doubt what to do, choose the most aggressive option'. I think it was Jake Cody that said that. It certainly seems to work for him. GG.  

[RED-DOG]

So, with hindsight, knowing what he has and assuming he is calling, do we shove? Bearing in mind that we are only like 5/4 fave,  are in decent shape, and like our table.

[Longy]

So, with hindsight, knowing what he has and assuming he is calling, do we shove? Bearing in mind that we are only like 5/4 fave,  are in decent shape, and like our table.

Deffo, not only are we favourite but there is a big overlay in the pot. No matter how soft the table not going to get many spots like this.

[Boba Fett]

I'd be more worried if he jammed ahead of you not flatted.

Players here often flat hoping you'll fold behind not vice-versa

Surely if he jams his range is weighted more towards draws than sets and makes it more of an instacall?

[George2Loose]

I'd be more worried if he jammed ahead of you not flatted.

Players here often flat hoping you'll fold behind not vice-versa

Surely if he jams his range is weighted more towards draws than sets and makes it more of an instacall?

A thinking player maybe but from what I've seen when live players have draws they would rather call and probably don't mind a call behind.

If they have a made hand they want to protect it at all costs so they jam.

[smashedagain]

I'd be more worried if he jammed ahead of you not flatted.

Players here often flat hoping you'll fold behind not vice-versa

Surely if he jams his range is weighted more towards draws than sets and makes it more of an instacall?

A thinking player maybe but from what I've seen when live players have draws they would rather call and probably don't mind a call behind.

If they have a made hand they want to protect it at all costs so they jam.

+1 great post

[Pharo]

I agree with kinboshi that whether this is a call or fold is entirely dependent on the 3 players in the hand. There isn't nearly enough information in this thread for me to figure it out either way but I can help you with a couple of things.

First, unless you have a specific read on this particluar player, I really don't think you should use "I was scared that he didn't raise" as a reason to fold. It's usually a mistake.

Second, you said that you would only want to put your chips in if you had a greater than 50% chance of staying alive in the tournament. You asked if you should call knowing that you were a favourite in a 3-way pot with dead money. The answer is that if you value the experience of staying alive in the tournament then you should fold. But if you value being good at poker you should call. Passing up a good opportunity for possible future opportunities is a risky business, and chances are you are overvaluing your edge versus the table.

[Junior Senior]

I'd shove

me too, but i'm terrible.
good luck

[millidonk]

I'd shove

me too, but i'm terrible. good luck

you tell me this after i have a tickle with staking. sigh.

[Junior Senior]

I'd shove

me too, but i'm terrible. good luck

you tell me this after i have a tickle with staking. sigh.

bluffing.