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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 05:23:39 PM » |
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Can't see what difference it will make, the Sun will just fill its place anyway.
Totally this. The NOTW is just the Sun on Sunday anyway. Now it will just get that title. I am not so sure that the other papers are up to this to the same degree. The simple weight of resources and number of stories based on this kind of evidence just isn't as prevalent in other papers (except the Sun obv). As much as this has undermined the reputation of journos I think is has also shown that we have some truly brilliant journalists in this country too. The work Nick Davies has done on this for the Guardian has been truly superb. It is just a shame his other work hasn't had the recognition at government/policy level that this will get. |
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2011, 05:24:23 PM » |
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Yeah it's funny that other papers ordered many more investigations by private detectives than the NotW (mail had 6 times as many...) and yet no stories have emerged. It's also funny that the BBC reported that it was common practice for the PINs to be changed to stop other journalists accessing voice mails and yet the NotW were the only ones doing it.
It all smacks of a disgraceful cover up to me...
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2011, 05:29:01 PM » |
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Yeah it's funny that other papers ordered many more investigations by private detectives than the NotW (mail had 6 times as many...) and yet no stories have emerged. It's also funny that the BBC reported that it was common practice for the PINs to be changed to stop other journalists accessing voice mails and yet the NotW were the only ones doing it.
It all smacks of a disgraceful cover up to me...
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2011, 05:29:47 PM » |
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Former News of the World features editor Paul McMullan said the decision to close the title was shocking. "One really bad act by a rogue freelance private investigator who used to be a failed professional footballer - I mean who hired him - you know and it's all over," he said.
lol, yeah just one guy.
And then the "press" complain when people say that their freedom should be curbed.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2011, 05:30:43 PM » |
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/06/privacy_personal_data_protection_from_the_press/Daily/Sunday Mail had paid for 1,218 investigations to be undertaken by private investigators on behalf of up to 91 different journalists. The Daily/Sunday Mirror ordered 824 investigations on behalf of up to 70 journalists. The Sunday People ordered 802 investigations involving up to 50 journalists, and the News of the World (the paper of current interest) had ordered 228 transactions of up to 33 journalists.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2011, 05:50:27 PM » |
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Yeh pretty obv The Sun will go 7 days a week and replace it. Still a pretty historical day in the world of journalism. It's been in circulation for over 150 years
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2011, 06:26:45 PM » |
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2011, 06:33:42 PM » |
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The sad thing is that the graph on the left could also relate to circulation......
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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 06:56:56 PM » |
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Yeh pretty obv The Sun will go 7 days a week and replace it. Still a pretty historical day in the world of journalism. It's been in circulation for over 150 years
Yes, Murdoch has run another, formerly, perfectly decent newspaper into the ground and turned it into a massive lying and imorral heap of shit. But that shouldn't surprise anyone as that is what he does. Will be interesting to see how Sky News (By idiots for idiots) will report on this. |
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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 07:30:12 PM » |
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wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
now just Thesun and all that other Murdoch filth to go.
I doubt very much that it was just the NOTW where this phone hacking took place. Massively this. Probs not anymore but it was pretty standard practice for most newspapers/front line media companies. Guess they are going to be the scape goats as they were dumb enough to get caught. I don't buy papers anyway, but this so called 'dispicable act' doesn't bother me in the slightest. It should teach people to change the pin on their voicemail. [ ] have bothered to change my voicemail pin. I couldn't disagree with this more, in the case of Milly Dowler some **** from the NOTW hacked the phone and deleted messages, this gave the family false hope it was her who had done it, are you saying they should've been thinking about changing the pin on her voicemail, if they even knew it, when they had this going on in there life, really ? I can't imagine how distressing that must've been for them and the person who did it should go to jail imo. |
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2011, 07:32:04 PM » |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/11/jonathan-rees-private-investigator-tabloidWhen the Daily Mirror wanted the private mortgage details of all the governors of the Bank of England, Rees delivered.
When the Sunday Mirror wanted to get inside the bank accounts of Prince Edward and the Countess of Wessex, it was equally easy, as the bug recorded:
Reporter: "Do you remember a couple of months ago, you got me some details on Edward's business and Sophie's business and how well they were doing?"
Rees: "Yeah."
Reporter: "And you did a check on Sophie's bank account."
Rees: "Yeah."
Reporter: "Is it possible to do that again? I'm not exactly sure what they're after but they seem to be under the impression that, you know, she was in the paper the other day for appearing in Hello magazine. They think she's had some kind of payment off them."
Rees: "What? Off Hello?"
Reporter: "Um, yeah."
Rees: "… find out how much."
Reporter: "Well, we just want to see if there's been any change to her bank account.
Just so it's clear that others also paid for it
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2011, 11:28:03 PM » |
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Loving Newsnight
NoW is just a breeding ground for 1% good 99% cockroaches
Hugh Grant is spot on
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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2011, 12:13:50 AM » |
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If tomorrows Guardian is correct and Andy Coulson is going to be arrested for effectively paying policemen then this is going to get very uncomfortable for the Tories.
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