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[redarmi]

So where do you draw the line then? It's obviously not where the law draws it, what if other people see it differently? What if other papers also hacked Milly's phone or something similar?

If other papers had hacked Millys phone they should be strung up too.  The crime is what is important not the perpetrator but those crimes have differing magnitudes.  On a personal level whilst I don't think Sienna Miller should have had her phone hacked she puts herself in the public spotlight and does very well financially out of it so invasion of privacy is very much a part of the job and whilst i find it a bit distasteful I also think pictures of her in her bikini on holiday in Barbados are too.  As for the Ashcroft case.  Firstly it wasn't anyones personal bank account, it was the Conservative Party account which shouldn't have to be hacked.  You should simply be able to walk into a bank and ask to see it imo.  Secondly, at the time it had been found out that Ashcrofts name was in DEA files and there were question marks about other elements of his businesses so i think investigations into his affairs and relationship with one of our major political parties is pretty much fair game.

[Bongo]

Isn't that the thing though? Everyone seems so desperate to hang Murdoch that no one else is asking: "Who else did similar?"

What about the role of the Police in all this? I expect this behaviour from the tabloids but the Police are meant to uphold the law. Given the NotW told them about a voicemail left on Milly's phone at the time (the one about the job offer) then they must have known and yet turned a blind eye.

The absolute worst case scenario I can think of is the Police telling Milly's parents that voicemails had been deleted and maybe she was alive whilst knowing it was far more likely to be a newspaper's doing. Maybe that wasn't the case but fuck, if it was, it's a whole order of magnitude more disgusting.

[AndrewT]

At last, some proper journalists are covering the case.

[boldie]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

[celtic]

Boldiefish, you can't hate a man that gives you free telly and keeps a roof over your head imo.

[millidonk]

I'm gonna miss it. How am i gonna get my breaking headlines fix?

[boldie]

Boldiefish, you can't hate a man that gives you free telly and keeps a roof over your head imo.

Yeah, you'd think not...bit of a strange one that.

I'll scoop the euromillions tonight though so MrsB can retire and we can switch to Woolyjumper (thereby indirectly giving money to Mr Murdoch as you'd still pay for Sky sports and all that stuff)

[smashedagain]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

i honestly think you are in a monority boldie

[redarmi]

Isn't that the thing though? Everyone seems so desperate to hang Murdoch that no one else is asking: "Who else did similar?"

What about the role of the Police in all this? I expect this behaviour from the tabloids but the Police are meant to uphold the law. Given the NotW told them about a voicemail left on Milly's phone at the time (the one about the job offer) then they must have known and yet turned a blind eye.

The absolute worst case scenario I can think of is the Police telling Milly's parents that voicemails had been deleted and maybe she was alive whilst knowing it was far more likely to be a newspaper's doing. Maybe that wasn't the case but fuck, if it was, it's a whole order of magnitude more disgusting.

To be fair the stuff with ashcroft was the Times so another Murdoch paper anyway.  I am sure it will all come out in time.  The expenses scandal started out by focussing largely on Labour ministers but widened out eventually.  On your point about the police I think this is part of the problem and that all of this is potentially only the tip of the iceberg.  

[boldie]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

i honestly think you are in a monority boldie

Is it cus I'm German and short?

p.s. I obviously know I'm in the minority on this one mate. That's why the Sun and NOTW are Brittain's best selling newspaper, people still voted Blair in for a 3rd term, MPs get away with stealing our tax money etc.etc.

 I just despair that behaviour like that is the norm these days.

[smashedagain]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

i honestly think you are in a monority boldie

Is it cus I'm German and short?

p.s. I obviously know I'm in the minority on this one mate. That's why the Sun and NOTW are Brittain's best selling newspaper, people still voted Blair in for a 3rd term, MPs get away with stealing our tax money etc.etc.

 I just despair that behaviour like that is the norm these days.

i was born in germany myself.  i despair at the world i have bought 3 boys into and cant see it getting any better

[kinboshi]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

i honestly think you are in a monority boldie

Is it cus I'm German and short?

p.s. I obviously know I'm in the minority on this one mate. That's why the Sun and NOTW are Brittain's best selling newspaper, people still voted Blair in for a 3rd term, MPs get away with stealing our tax money etc.etc.

 I just despair that behaviour like that is the norm these days.

i was born in germany myself.  i despair at the world i have bought 3 boys into and cant see it getting any better

You do live in Scunny though.

[smashedagain]

lol, a sad day when you have to go to cartoon news to get proper images.

i honestly think you are in a monority boldie

Is it cus I'm German and short?

p.s. I obviously know I'm in the minority on this one mate. That's why the Sun and NOTW are Brittain's best selling newspaper, people still voted Blair in for a 3rd term, MPs get away with stealing our tax money etc.etc.

 I just despair that behaviour like that is the norm these days.

i was born in germany myself.  i despair at the world i have bought 3 boys into and cant see it getting any better

You do live in Scunny though.

this is true.

[thetank]

If someone breaks in to tightend's house on a hot July night and whips off his bedcovers before taking a high res picture of his naked bottom and then puts a link to it all over twitter, then I'm not going to be happy with the guy who did that. Tightend is a lovely fellow, absolutely does not deserve such treatment.

You shouldn't break into people's houses, you shouldn't take pictures of their naked bottoms without their permission, and you shouldn't distribute it via social media. It's naughty, and if the person gets caught they should be punished.

I'm going to have a look at the picture though. Perhaps if it's been put on a website selling wool, I might not buy any wool from that website anymore. Such a protest would come after I looked at the picture. Does this make me a hypocrite? The whole world is looking at this poor man's exposed rump and I opt to have a quick swatch too.

I do not buy the argument that because I looked there's a market for what they're doing, therefore whatever ends journos go to obtain these pictures (and/or seedy stories) are justified. That they're just fulfilling a demand, that it's my fault and not theirs. I'm not sure there is a pre existing demand
for photos of tightend's arse. I would just look out of curiosity, see what all the fuss was about.

I'm all for a free press to print what they like, (and I consider myself free to not like a bunch of them.) If they break the law though... boom, suffer the full consequences and die die die. I'm going to exercise my freedom of speech to add to the public hysteria that serves to expedite this metaphorical death death death, and when it's all over I'm free to dance about on their metaphorical graves.

If nobody breaks into tightend's house and does snappy snappy twitpic then obviously there won't be any bum for me to look at. I'm confident that this won't mean I lead any less full a life as I would have otherwise.

[MANTIS01]

If someone breaks in to tightend's house on a hot July night and whips off his bedcovers before taking a high res picture of his naked bottom and then puts a link to it all over twitter, then I'm not going to be happy with the guy who did that. Tightend is a lovely fellow, absolutely does not deserve such treatment.

You shouldn't break into people's houses, you shouldn't take pictures of their naked bottoms without their permission, and you shouldn't distribute it via social media. It's naughty, and if the person gets caught they should be punished.

I'm going to have a look at the picture though. Perhaps if it's been put on a website selling wool, I might not buy any wool from that website anymore. Such a protest would come after I looked at the picture. Does this make me a hypocrite? The whole world is looking at this poor man's exposed rump and I opt to have a quick swatch too.

I do not buy the argument that because I looked there's a market for what they're doing, therefore whatever ends journos go to obtain these pictures (and/or seedy stories) are justified. That they're just fulfilling a demand, that it's my fault and not theirs. I'm not sure there is a pre existing demand
for photos of tightend's arse. I would just look out of curiosity, see what all the fuss was about.

I'm all for a free press to print what they like, (and I consider myself free to not like a bunch of them.) If they break the law though... boom, suffer the full consequences and die die die. I'm going to exercise my freedom of speech to add to the public hysteria that serves to expedite this metaphorical death death death, and when it's all over I'm free to dance about on their metaphorical graves.

If nobody breaks into tightend's house and does snappy snappy twitpic then obviously there won't be any bum for me to look at. I'm confident that this won't mean I lead any less full a life as I would have otherwise.

If there was a naked picture of Tightend's bottom online I wouldn't be curious to see it. Not one bit.