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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2011, 07:31:45 PM » |
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Surely when he mucks tho dealer should pull the cards into the muck?
yes of course they should muck em. just being facetious to help leefish out, but cant triple barrel it coz you are too nice. do think you should have pointed out the players error. its only a small pot to give up he should be shot imo
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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2011, 08:04:48 PM » |
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In my book deliberately calling a river bet with no hand because you feel that oppo is bluffing and he has a tendency to muck when picked off is angle-shooting, especially when the guy explains afterwards that was his sole intention when calling.
This is never angle shooting, merely exploiting the other players mistake which is surely only the way to win in poker.
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2011, 10:31:14 PM » |
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Personally I love the german guy's line in that hand. He exploited an angle he was sharp enough to pick up on. People are being far too precious about morales here. This is poker! it's hardly fucking golf with the boss.
George. The only thing you did wrong was say you played the board twice. Once was enough.
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« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2011, 02:35:11 AM » |
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Everything CF said.
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« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2011, 04:01:58 AM » |
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This is the TDA summit, they discussed this very hand and it is very interesting to see a room of 150 TD's discussing this hand. go to 1:50 to miss all the other shit as the whole thing is 4 hours long. FWIW I dont think Tobias did anything wrong and RdW was shooting an angle.
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« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2011, 04:23:36 AM » |
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Ty for the link Rich, loving it.
Did anything get clarified about the WSOPs rule next year with regards to cheering and following people and the player you are there to support getting punished rather than the railers?
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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2011, 04:31:46 AM » |
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The revised rules will be on the TDA site within 3 days, not sure if the railing etiquette will be written down?
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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2011, 04:38:21 AM » |
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ah ok kewl. am watching this whole discussion back now about the De Wolfe hand, really surprised about the amount of people on RDW side considering how clearly his cards hit the muck and therefore are dead.
RDW douschyness, dealer error imo.
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2011, 08:35:10 AM » |
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Rulings always fascinate me. Keep hearing in Dtd you have to show to claim a pot on the river but in ukipts if your opponent mucks then you can too. What would you do with the pot if I threw my cards into the muck after my opponent without showing em Richard. Obv you know I would never do this but would like to know.
Saw vicky corehn get a bit heated over a ruling at a ukipt in G Manchester because of the local G rule was totally opposite of stars rule. The main rule is the tourney directors decision is final. I saw someone get irate the other week and heard simon say to the td if he does not agree then ban him from the club. A bit harsh I thought
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« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2011, 01:29:50 PM » |
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Nice thread killer Rich lol
George surely you feel this is wrong otherwise you wouldn't posted, there will always be a few 'tough guys' on the thread saying fuckim he deserves it he's a knob etc but you are not like that.
Afterwards did it play on your mind? affect your play? did you feel Karma shafting you?
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« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2011, 03:14:51 PM » |
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Nice thread killer Rich lol
George surely you feel this is wrong otherwise you wouldn't posted, there will always be a few 'tough guys' on the thread saying fuckim he deserves it he's a knob etc but you are not like that.
Afterwards did it play on your mind? affect your play? did you feel Karma shafting you?
Agree with this. Whenever people behave in this ultra hard ass serious way to avoid showing any chink of weakness at a poker table I think it's funny to see. Just relax and be normal kids. This rules is rules line doesn't work imo. In football you throw the ball back to your oppos if they put it out. I don't think it's weak to do that. It's just normal fair behaviour for people playing a game. Throwing back to your man instead cos the rules say you can would be pretty mean imo. So why do people freeze up at the poker table and try and act so hard face? The RDW hand is embarrassing because two grown men are snatching and grabbing at cards like a couple of infants. I don't see what harm it does to give the clueless individual half the pot in the scheme of things.
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« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2011, 04:18:29 PM » |
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if it was a £500 pot on cash you wouldn't feel so bad you'd be giggling all the way too the cash desk. its his own fault for being a idiot. you told him twice playing the board so its his own fault for being a moron! i hope it wasn't me 
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« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2011, 04:23:14 PM » |
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if it was a £500 pot on cash you wouldn't feel so bad you'd be giggling all the way too the cash desk. its his own fault for being a idiot. you told him twice playing the board so its his own fault for being a moron! i hope it wasn't me  tough guy itt
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« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2011, 05:29:37 PM » |
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Nice thread killer Rich lol
George surely you feel this is wrong otherwise you wouldn't posted, there will always be a few 'tough guys' on the thread saying fuckim he deserves it he's a knob etc but you are not like that.
Afterwards did it play on your mind? affect your play? did you feel Karma shafting you?
Didn't bat an eyelid at the time. It was only when I thought about it afterward that I thought it might have been out of line. No one said anything at the table either- they just found it funny. Think villian in the hand was more embarrassed than anything else. As a side point, I'm not one of these people who demand to see people's cards at showdown. If I believe I have the winner whether betting or calling I will table my hand
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