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« on: July 09, 2011, 09:59:10 AM » |
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Keep meaning to post this.
Deepstack this month. Guy ep opens. Mid position peel. Button calls.I peel 23hh Sb (in before gold pre). Bb folds.4 handed and flop is 954 one heart. I lead half pot. Ep raiser calls. Mid pos calls. Button folds.
Turn is jh. I check. Ep checks. Mp bets. I call. Ep folds. Board bricks. I am playing the board and give up. My opponent checks.
I say twice "I'm playing the board" villian shrugs and mucks. I say "are u mucking?" He nods. Without thinking I ask dealer to pull his cards in before tabling my hand. Table is Obv shocked and bemused.
Question: in this spot, knowing I can only split at best should I let villian muck?
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kinboshi
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2011, 10:07:30 AM » |
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You table your hand if you want to claim the pot. Simple really and he's forfeiting that option. You did ask him if he's mucking, and you told him you're playing board so he knows if he tables he's chopping the pot with you.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 10:31:33 AM » |
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Its bad IMO and I wouldn't do it but its not half as bad as Kinboshi shouting nuts to get others to muck then tabling air.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 10:32:48 AM » |
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i split the pot with him regardless. karma
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Solaris
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 10:43:48 AM » |
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No idea what the rule is at DTD but if it's the last aggressor shows and he mucks his hand so be it. I'd wouldn't ask the dealer to muck his hand tho, that's not your job.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2011, 10:44:18 AM » |
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Its bad IMO and I wouldn't do it but its not half as bad as Kinboshi shouting nuts to get others to muck then tabling air.
Ha, that was brilliant. Tabled nine-high on a paired board with possible straights and flushes when I was down to 2xBBs and said "the nuts" as I stood up and put my jacket on. Two players mucked a-high and a laughing Barry Neville's brother tabled the same hand as me and we chopped the miniscule pot. A few seconds later a few of the players were saying I was cheating by saying I had the nuts, missing the fact that I'd tabled my hand first and was putting my jacket on as I said it. Micky Wernick was sat to my left and he told them to basically get a grip as it was obvious it was a joke and as I'd tabled my hand they could clearly see what I had. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2011, 10:45:59 AM » |
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You shouldnt have to ask the dealer... but I can imagine you probably did have to. What you did here is 100% fine, especially if you've said "I'm playing the board" twice.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2011, 10:48:16 AM » |
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No idea what the rule is at DTD but if it's the last aggressor shows and he mucks his hand so be it. I'd wouldn't ask the dealer to muck his hand tho, that's not your job.
yes asking the dealer to muck his hand is a bit douchy and desperate looking. i would have given you both a round penalty for chip passing/collusion |
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2011, 11:03:27 AM » |
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Surely when he mucks tho dealer should pull the cards into the muck?
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2011, 11:09:23 AM » |
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Surely when he mucks tho dealer should pull the cards into the muck?
yes of course they should muck em. just being facetious to help leefish out, but cant triple barrel it coz you are too nice. do think you should have pointed out the players error. its only a small pot to give up |
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 11:12:24 AM » |
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If you say you're playing the board and he still mucks his hand he deserves to lose the pot
I hope you got the lot
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 11:17:02 AM » |
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If you say you're playing the board and he still mucks his hand he deserves to lose the pot
I hope you got the lot
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 11:18:59 AM » |
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The most ethical thing to do in this spot is fire the river. As played muck your hand as well and stare at the felt in silence.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 11:19:49 AM » |
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Seems fine to me. If he wants to fold his hand I don't see any reason why you should stop him.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 11:32:14 AM » |
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Seems fine to me. If he wants to fold his hand I don't see any reason why you should stop him.
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