ak oop 200bb deep

[piestack]

it seems i've had this subject line once before. not sure about pre or flop or turn

24/21 (~700hands)
3bet 14% from bb
never squeezed (i know this isn't a squeeze), relatively tight 4bettor

6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: villain ($402 in chips)
Seat 2: utg ($228 in chips)
Seat 3: big fish ($166 in chips)
Seat 4: little fish ($83 in chips)
Seat 5: cardboard box ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: hero ($518.95 in chips)
hero: posts small blind $1
villain: posts big blind $2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [ ]
utg: folds
big fish: calls $2
little fish: folds
cardboard box: calls $2
hero: raises $8 to $10
villain: raises $26 to $36
big fish: folds
cardboard box: folds
hero: calls $26

*** FLOP *** [ ]
hero: checks
villain: bets $46
hero: calls $46

*** TURN *** [ ] []
hero: checks
villain: bets $94
hero:

[Solaris]

Fold the flop. This is just an awful, awful board for our hand.

[skolsuper]

Fold the flop. This is just an awful, awful board for our hand.

[piestack]

Fold the flop. This is just an awful, awful board for our hand.

[Rupert]

we can call the flop !

[Solaris]

we can call the flop !

relatively tight 4bettor

Are we hoping he's 4 bet squeezing and then calling the flop in the hope he just gives up? It's virtually impossible for us to get another street of value from a weaker hand.

Don't like that personally.

[Rupert]

14% 3 bet tho

[piestack]

just realised that it might be 14% 3bet from bb vs steal. (which it sort of is)

[Patonius2000]

I would not be folding the flop, c/f turn.

[Patonius2000]

we can call the flop !

relatively tight 4bettor

Are we hoping he's 4 bet squeezing and then calling the flop in the hope he just gives up? It's virtually impossible for us to get another street of value from a weaker hand.

Don't like that personally.

We aren't getting exploited by c/c c/f this hand, our pf range should absolutely rape this board. In other words he won't bluff us on the turn and if he is then that is fine because our range in super strong, we just have the bottom of it here.

[SuuPRlim]

depends on the player but I think you can just jam pre-flop and show a small profit.

if he's a decent player then it's gonna be pretty tricky to see this one through without making a bad fold/call at some point.

Jam pre and if we assume his calling range is ONLY QQ+, AKo, AKs then we need him to be folding ~61% to breakeven + a 14% range is like 66+, A5s+, KJs+ so it's reasonable to assume that he will fold over 60% of the time.

[SuuPRlim]

^^^ not saying it's THE BEST line, just saying I think it's viable

[pleno1]

cawl flop, c/f turn.

[muckthenuts]

he's betting a worse hand on the turn like never, simple fold

[piestack]

yeah, the turn i folded. it was the flop play that i wasn't sure whether i should call or not.
i don't even know if it's close between calling and folding.