RIP Amy Winehouse

[boldie]

Rupert Murdoch has said he is touched by some of the messages people have left on Amy's phone.

lol

[Acidmouse]

Feel for her parents, don't give 2 figs about her. She was on self destruct and it was always gonna happen. Although she was talented, she was junkie and a bad role model. No time for druggies and the absolute havoc they cause within society.

A society as a whole can best be judged on how it treats, values, interacts, looks after those most vulnerable and in need. Understanding, tolerance and be respectful of everyone regardless of their flaws, background, past etc.

To judge and dismiss everyone with a drug problem as an havoc to society is at best simplistic at worst naive. (My Mum caused huge havoc when she couldn't stop taking her tranq's after her parents died) I would say drink was Amy's biggest problem and I bet that's what ultimately killed her, so I do hope when you make these sweeping assertion against "druggies" you attach everyone who has a drinking problem too? which I think is a bigger problem for the country as a whole.

How would you react to someone trolling a thread about military getting killed in action with "fuck um they deserved it, I hate the military" type post?

I don't understand lots of people you included but I try not to piss on your fire for the fun of it.

[kinboshi]

An interesting case to consider are soldiers who return from war and are suffering from PTSD and so turn to drink or drugs to cope.

Should they be discarded as 'addicts' or 'junkies'?

[StuartHopkin]

An interesting case to consider are soldiers who return from war and are suffering from PTSD and so turn to drink or drugs to cope.

Should they be discarded as 'addicts' or 'junkies'?

Classed as yes, none of them should be discarded though.

[kinboshi]

An interesting case to consider are soldiers who return from war and are suffering from PTSD and so turn to drink or drugs to cope.

Should they be discarded as 'addicts' or 'junkies'?

Classed as yes, none of them should be discarded though.

If they die, do they get our sympathy, or do we just reserve that for their parents?

[MANTIS01]

Been having a kinda Amy Winehouse week in tribute, Back to Black & Frank in the car etc, and oh my gosh forgotten how good she truly was. She must have given strength to millions through her music as music tends to do, particularly as she wrote in times of anguish. I think that effect and the music legacy will last for a v long time. What kind of Fuckery is this? Lol at that lyric. I have even got Tears Dry on their Own as my ringtone now having bumped You're So Vain, which wasn't easy I can tell you.

[MANTIS01]

I'm happy to give the media a kicking while they're down. Always camping outside to get the wired pictures after a session and only fed the public junkie pictures. She wasn't like that all the while though eg the songs she wrote, including rehab, were top drawer. And she must have worked hard to get there, been ambitious etc. But cos the public were fed only the crazy bad pictures when she dies all her quality and achievement is brushed aside. But listen to what lots of her fans say, many young, and her music was inspirational to them. Obv she wasn't a saint but not all bad either. The bastards did this with Jacko and some people see him as a pedo. Nah man Jacko isn't a pedo he's Michael Jackson and he did Thriller and moonwalked and stuff.

[Acidmouse]

you have to wait 2 years on average to get help for addiction from a proper doctor on the NHS. To get meths daily and not help with mental health problems takes a few weeks...