JJ utg in 1/2 live cash

[craiggg999]

JJ utg, sitting with around 80bb, villain to my direct left, is a work colleague/ fellow dealer! I raise to 12 utg with  , and get snap called by villain and one other complete fish! Flop (£40)      so basically the nut flop for my hand. I'm 1st to act and see checking as looking suspect so bet out £19 knowing villain is very likely to float me here, he calls and other guy folds. The turn is the  which isn't the best turn card but very unlikely he can have gone ahead in he hand. What lines do you guys see as he correct play FTP
Here as to leading out again, checking to trap, inducing etc? Thanks il let you know the outcome once I hear a response

[SuuPRlim]

you start with £160 yh?

£40 OTF and you have £148, then ott there is £78 in the pot and we have £129.

bet £38 and then we can jam ~1/2 pot on the river and give him a great price to make a thin- ish call.

Tempting always to check but we need to build a pot to go all in on the river.

[kinboshi]

Agree with that. With only 80BBs you're looking at the best way to control the pot to ensure you can get your whole stack in the middle effectively (i.e. with another player in with you).

I don't think checking helps you at all here, as you have an awkward stack size on the river if he checks behind on the turn.

[muckthenuts]

bet, bet, bet is generally the way to go when you have a good hand at £1/2

[craiggg999]

If your pretty certain hes going to float with mostly any two cards, then surely checking is the best option. It allows him to bluff the turn whereas by betting, he is going to fold a large amount of hands that he may believe is good if we check, ie 77 through 10-10 as well as J-9 10-j etc etc? By betting again with quite a shallow stack, i think this looks uber stong?

In this hand, i checked the turn to which he bet out £50, i dwelled and then shoved for around £140 which he snapped me off. The river came the  , and he turned over  for a rivered straight. By betting the turn, there is a strong possibiliy i get him to fold here, which is not what i want, and he has sort of turned his hand into a bluff by betting 50 on the turn into about £60..? Opinions???

[kinboshi]

He got lucky, and like you said you don't want him to fold on the turn. If he calls your shove why would he not call a bet on the turn?

[craiggg999]

cos its £70 more to him to win like £320 whereas me betting the turn means it would prob be more like £50 to win £80? By checking the turn he now has about £90 invested in the pot so feels like he cant fold, exactly where i want him, whereas by betting the turn even though he is up and down, he may just give up on it?

[kinboshi]

So he's basically bluffing on the turn? He's just mangled the hand.

[craiggg999]

He may think hes good, but by betting £50 into about £80, i dont think thats for value, my opening range is pretty tight and if i was to ever call his £50 ( which is never going to happen with out stack sizes) it could never be with a hand worse than 66..?

[SuuPRlim]

there is no way he should have wagered £1 more with a 6 and a 6 here, regardless of the turn action.

bet, bet, bet is generally the way to go when you have a good hand at £1/2

people just dont fold. I remember playing tons of hands at these stakes where I couldn't tell you more than 2 hands I was betting for value vs and got called seemingly all the time by worse lol

[smashedagain]

You get JJ a lot