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TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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Topic: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD (Read 8174 times)
JK
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 04:09:41 PM »
Quote from: outragous76 on July 29, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 29, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
Why didn't the 5 of you pack up and head to a strip club.
Every 3 minutes take it in turns to throw £7 in to a pot.
Every 9 minutes one of you gets to see some boobs.
Perhaps skip every 4th lap dance to get a round in or something.
best pha post of the year so far - and so very true!
Needs more love. Almost made me cry laughing!
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 04:46:05 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on July 29, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
Why didn't the 5 of you pack up and head to a strip club.
Every 3 minutes take it in turns to throw £7 in to a pot.
Every 9 minutes one of you gets to see some boobs.
Perhaps skip every 4th lap dance to get a round in or something.
LOL. Brilliant
Quote from: pleno1 on July 29, 2011, 02:18:05 PM
tbf everyone in poker (jncluding myself) thinks they way better than they are, everyone in the game probably thought they had an edge.
LOL. So true
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 04:47:30 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on July 29, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on July 29, 2011, 01:39:43 AM
Quote from: cambridgealex on July 29, 2011, 01:21:57 AM
Yeh but meh, lifes too good atm
If I where you and had just binked 35 bags I'd ship it in blind every hand for com value then go get smashed.
No you wouldn't!!
You went and snap paid off your credit card!!
LOL.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:01:58 PM »
no game is 0ev. rake makes things tougher but on different nights this game will have the same players playing winning or losing styles.
bumhunters gtfo. what happens when a worse player walks in ready to drop some money and sees no game running?
i'm not keen trying to get into a 4/5bet levelling war here with Neil in particular, I've always thought he had the best understanding of preflop dynamics in the dtd games and his ranges are weighted very well. So in a vacuum I don't like 3betting to induce with awkward stack sizes, also obviously this isnt a hand that is going to play well oop if the 3bet is just called (baring in mind Mitch is still active also).
having said that thanks to Mitch's donation to the cause and the now fairly large 4ball its probably a jam since we dont need him to fold that often.
when he fold we win £295 but when he calls we prob lose around £200-250 (assuming MTF doesn't use soe sort of side pot implied odds to flop a set)
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:10:54 PM »
Good post GED.
The amount of money Mitch deems prudent to call preflop with suited connectors and small pocket pairs is unfathomable to say the least.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:12:44 PM »
Oh look, there's the first case of the classic autocorrect capitalistion of "Ged" (an annoying side-effect of this new iPad I've purchased)
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:27:30 PM »
Quote from: TheFallen on July 29, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
no game is 0ev. rake makes things tougher but on different nights this game will have the same players playing winning or losing styles.
bumhunters gtfo. what happens when a worse player walks in ready to drop some money and sees no game running?
i'm not keen trying to get into a 4/5bet levelling war here with Neil in particular,
I've always thought he had the best understanding of preflop dynamics in the dtd games and his ranges are weighted very well.
So in a vacuum I don't like 3betting to induce with awkward stack sizes, also obviously this isnt a hand that is going to play well oop if the 3bet is just called (baring in mind Mitch is still active also).
having said that thanks to Mitch's donation to the cause and the now fairly large 4ball its probably a jam since we dont need him to fold that often.
when he fold we win £295 but when he calls we prob lose around £200-250 (assuming MTF doesn't use soe sort of side pot implied odds to flop a set)
Yeah really good post, 100% agree with the bit in bold here in particular and pretty much everything else as well. My thinking when I broke the hand down is pretty much exactly the same as this post, I was 3betting to induce but stack sizes definitely aren't good for it and with hindsight I prefer peeling pre.
Results: I shove (think I'd still happily do this as played now) and Neil confirms the amount for a couple of seconds before calling with AK. Lost both runs through the board which was pretty sigh but even after that I don't regret playing in the game, really enjoyed it not just because of the obvious banter that was going on, but also because it throws up difficult spots such as this one and really helps me to improve my game IMO. Sure I like calling pre with pairs flopping sets and stacking a fish but it's pretty mindless and I still get a thrill from the mental battle involved in playing with good players.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:36:34 PM »
Quote from: TheFallen on July 29, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
no game is 0ev. rake makes things tougher but on different nights this game will have the same players playing winning or losing styles.
bumhunters gtfo. what happens when a worse player walks in ready to drop some money and sees no game running?
excellent. excellent post. My metaphorical hat is tipped slightly to the side.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 08:41:10 PM »
You ran it twice!!
That makes the game even more of a rake feeder.
Let's get £800 in each then do the best we can to chop it up and donate £7 to the cause.
Not trying to be horrible here by the way.
Personally I'd love to play in this game rather than some dull grind.
Sounds like fun but I'm also trying to look at it from a practical point of view.
As played I think you did everything spot on right up to the point where you run it twice.
Get it in, win the flip then laugh hard at Giblin.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 09:03:41 PM »
Lol, since when did running it twice effect the ev of any situation?!
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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Quote from: cambridgealex on July 29, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
Lol, since when did running it twice effect the ev of any situation?!
Who mentioned EV?
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 09:21:53 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on July 29, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
You ran it twice!!
That makes the game even more of a rake feeder.
Let's get £800 in each then do the best we can to chop it up and donate £7 to the cause.
Not trying to be horrible here by the way.
Personally I'd love to play in this game rather than some dull grind.
Sounds like fun but I'm also trying to look at it from a practical point of view.
As played I think you did everything spot on right up to the point where you run it twice.
Get it in, win the flip then laugh hard at Giblin.
YOU STUPID NITS.
In case anyone couldnt be bothered to reads matts post.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 09:23:11 PM »
not really sure how running it twice makes it more of a rake feeder. If we run it twice the rake is £7, If we run it once the rake is £7.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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Quote from: stato_1 on July 29, 2011, 09:23:11 PM
not really sure how running it twice makes it more of a rake feeder. If we run it twice the rake is £7, If we run it once the rake is £7.
you know where he is coming from lol.
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Re: TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD
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July 29, 2011, 10:39:55 PM »
Quote from: smashedagain on July 29, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: stato_1 on July 29, 2011, 09:23:11 PM
not really sure how running it twice makes it more of a rake feeder. If we run it twice the rake is £7, If we run it once the rake is £7.
you know where he is coming from lol.
The point is that if you chop you both lose £3.50. If you win one of yuo loses £850 the other wins £843. I don't think it matters really though lol
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