TT in the sb vs button 200bbs deep in a straddled pot, £1/£2 cash @ DTD

[DMorgan]

Definitely agree with the lol @ bumhunters camp

The games wouldn't last very long if all the regs sat in the bar playing solitaire till some random punter turned up

Playing in this sort of game isn't going to improve anyone as a player in itself. We all know a few guys that have been playing against the same lineups for years and still don't beat them. It will throw up spots that will improve your play vs these regs if you study them though. Improving your winrate vs the other regs is obv going to be a good thing when one or more of these players will be involved in most of your sessions.

[mondatoo]

Bumhunting FTMFW, fk the haters.

[SuuPRlim]

Dan Morgan always says such intelligent things

when people quit games they are rolled for because the line up gets tough I just think......pussssssssssssssyboi walk den, walk den pussssssssssssyboi. (haha lol@me)

Did you like this bit I said Dan? made me lol to myself for ages when I wrote it.

[DMorgan]

haha, it actually made me put dizzee's back catalogue to the top of the playlist for tomorrows grind

[jakally]

My thoughts relating to points made in this thread :

Postflop I'm a dog in this game, therefore I'm trying to take advantage of any edge I may have preflop in all spots.
400+ bb's deep (or 200+ depending how you view the straddle) I would not always be looking to get AK in preflop, but given the previous dynamic, I've got to be playing AK strong where it's sensible.
Andy would recognise my preflop strat. more readily than probably any of the others, and would adjust his game to suit.

Andy's 3, 4 and 5 bet range PF is wider than anyone else in this game, therefore my range for 4 betting, and calling his 5 bet, is wider than against any of the other players.
IMO his 3b / 5b shove with TT is super standard, and this line will be decently profitable.

In terms of playing in this game, it's the most fun I have pokerwise at any point in a 'working' week.
I know for certain I would be a loser, long term, in this line up, but I don't mind sometimes making a small donation if I'm having a good time.

I can't ever remember requesting to run a hand twice (or more) before.
Usually, I am in the 'whatever will be, will be' camp, and I'm rolled ok for the games I play in.
For some reason I snap-suggested to Andy that we run it twice.
I'm kind of ambivalent on it as an issue.
I kind of like the excitement of having one shot at a big pot (gamblers instinct obv), but will tend to go with the flow, if the other person in the hand has a strong opinion, and wants to run multiple boards.

[SuuPRlim]

If i was in this spot vs a reg player I know well and quite like Id run it twice because deep down Id be pretty fine with splitting it as I dont like to see my mates lose.

Would also be absolutley fine with winning £850 mind

[AlexMartin]

Sorry to tangent off here but I think this is a pretty bad spot to 3bet unless we have some reason to expect someone to spazz off or the dynamic of the game is such that its a fistpump 5ball get in.

Problem with 3betting here, TT or anything is that no1 ever folds to 3bets really so we either get 4 bet or have toplay a deep, arkward pot OOP vs capable thinkers. My adjustment for balance sake would be to 3bet zero%  hands from the SB in this line up. You get 3bet QQ+ and AK and then balance by throwing a ton of light 3bets in, the light 3bets will prolly be -EV in a vacuum and you'l polarize you're 3bets and make you really easy to 4bet.

SO yh would just peel pre. Now Im either folding or jamming depending on several things that you'll know and I dont

thats a good post.

[Whollyflush]

Yea i agree with not 3betting this hand semi-deep vs competent players. I'd still 3bet with almost the same frequencies, but they'd be more nutted hands like big suited broadways and suited Ax wheels.

[EvilPie]

Yea i agree with not 3betting this hand semi-deep vs competent players. I'd still 3bet with almost the same frequencies, but they'd be more nutted hands like big suited broadways and suited Ax wheels.

I'm a bit confused. How can you 3 bet with the same frequency when you've changed your 3 bet range?

Are you just planning on getting better cards?

[pleno1]

hes taking 1010/99/aj out of his range and adding a2,a3,a4,a5s kinda hands. so the same amount (frequencies) but different range.

[Whollyflush]

Yea i agree with not 3betting this hand semi-deep vs competent players. I'd still 3bet with almost the same frequencies, but they'd be more nutted hands like big suited broadways and suited Ax wheels.

I'm a bit confused. How can you 3 bet with the same frequency when you've changed your 3 bet range?

Are you just planning on getting better cards?

What Pleno said, just because you've changed your range doesn't mean you've changed your frequency. Obviously you get dealt way more suited Ax than pairs but i probably wouldn't be 3 betting every single one every time.

[GreekStein]

I'm defo in the call pre camp.

[smashedagain]

I'm defo in the call pre camp.

fyp....... And no shit

[GreekStein]

I'm defo in the call pre camp.

fyp....... And no shit

See you this weekend Herbie. We can have some Greek-Chino camp fun.

[smashedagain]

Lol. Damm. Did read you was making a guest appearance this weekend. We can compare man bags. Be nice to see you before you go on your travels. X