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« on: August 03, 2011, 02:02:23 PM » |
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Apologies for the imperfect hand history. It's not ideal posting these from ipoker. We are 5-handed. Villain 2 (UTG) in this hand is a semi reg, villain 1 (SB) is a massive fish. I'm playing $500, villain 2 is playing 300 and villain 1 is playing $300 (just doubled). No massive history with either but it's likely they both view me as very aggressive and quite tricky. UTG Villain 2 opens to 7, I call on the button with     . Villain 1 calls in SB. The flop is    and they both check to me. I bet $21. Fish folds SB and UTG calls. Turn  . (This makes me 2nd nuts incase hh is confusing atm). UTG pots for $70. We? Thoughts so far on everything pls and our decision now. |
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 02:36:25 PM » |
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Fold pre? Wouldn't mind the hand so much if it was DS but not a huge fan of flatting pre even IP with that sort of hand.
On the turn I flat and evaluate the river. Almost certainly folding to a big river bet unless the club comes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 02:45:16 PM » |
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Fold pre? Wouldn't mind the hand so much if it was DS but not a huge fan of flatting pre even IP with that sort of hand.
On the turn I flat and evaluate the river. Almost certainly folding to a big river bet unless the club comes.
Normally I fold pre but the fish in SB is just too worthwhile to play pots with. On another table he stacked off to a 170 shove into 260 with K789 on a 78JQA board. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 02:47:07 PM » |
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I mean i am no expert but i just get it in here.
He obviously likes his hand enough but i think you see sets with flush draws more than 108
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 02:48:20 PM » |
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Apologies for the imperfect hand history. It's not ideal posting these from ipoker. We are 5-handed. Villain 2 (UTG) in this hand is a semi reg, villain 1 (SB) is a massive fish. I'm playing $500, villain 2 is playing 300 and villain 1 is playing $300 (just doubled). No massive history with either but it's likely they both view me as very aggressive and quite tricky. UTG Villain 2 opens to 7, I call on the button with . Villain 1 calls in SB. The flop is and they both check to me. I bet $21. Fish folds SB and UTG calls. Turn . (This makes me 2nd nuts incase hh is confusing atm). UTG pots for $70. We? Thoughts so far on everything pls and our decision now. i aint giving you my thoughts on everything coz "SOME PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH". i dont mind the call pre flop especially with Mr Fishy in sb as he is our mark (shame he aint hit a pair). We fold these type of hands in position we may as well play like an old boy as we are gonna get steam rollered. flat call the turn and re evaluate on the river. is i poker not you fav place to play? |
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 02:50:09 PM » |
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Fold pre? Wouldn't mind the hand so much if it was DS but not a huge fan of flatting pre even IP with that sort of hand.
On the turn I flat and evaluate the river. Almost certainly folding to a big river bet unless the club comes.
Normally I fold pre but the fish in SB is just too worthwhile to play pots with. On another table he stacked off to a 170 shove into 260 with K789 on a 78JQA board. lol. wiiiiii agree and for villan to show up with 10 8 raising utg its a cooler and why we live the rock n roll lifestyle |
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 02:52:38 PM » |
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is i poker not you fav place to play?
OFC it is. hand histories just not ideal for posting on hand analysis boards. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 03:41:59 PM » |
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Meh @ folding pre.
You're on the button, raise pre.
Call now please.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 04:52:46 PM » |
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I'm folding pre-flop to a R, but there again I am over thirty  As played I think I would flat the turn bet but if it bricks I'm not sure what I'd do if there were a river shove. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 05:04:38 PM » |
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if we weren't as deep i shove as he is priced in with 2pair+worse flush etc etc and we get all the money in good shape lots.
This deep though he can bet fold things that are is very bad shape to us so jamming value goes down. Call turn call river is much riskier but im going to give him a chance to barrel, hit a flush or check call a shove from us on the river with a bluff catcher.
I'd possible fold a few rivers to a jam but really want some sort of specific read ..... (it seems a bad way to play his hand if he has turned nuts given stack depth and a fish being in the pot. I would assume if he was that spazzy with the lines he takes then there is a good chance you would have noticed at some point).
pre seems fine to me. this is plo not nl
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 07:49:33 PM » |
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flat here, I think raising is pretty bad unless you have some real history or are aware of some game flow dynamic that makes him wanna bet/c J9 with blues or w/e
jam any diamond, club J 5 9 or 7 river if he chks, in fact id go as far to say id jam almost ANY river he checks to us.
prolly fold if he jams a non club river
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 08:05:48 PM » |
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and I would rarely fold this preflop.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 08:27:30 PM » |
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and I would rarely fold this preflop.
How about boldie's 3-betting strategy pre-flop? |
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 11:12:57 AM » |
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and I would rarely fold this preflop.
How about boldie's 3-betting strategy pre-flop? the button, 4 cards, raise? adopt a pretty similar strategy myself |
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 12:24:00 PM » |
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and I would rarely fold this preflop.
How about boldie's 3-betting strategy pre-flop? no one folds so its pretty poor strategy to not try and control the pot. |
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