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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2011, 06:14:21 PM »

whats going on?

has haseeb qwhuiodshcviosahf been scamming ppl?

and jose been doing it too?

or have i been doing it also?
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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2011, 07:28:11 PM »

He is a cheat and should be shot in the face
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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2011, 11:20:00 PM »

Matthew Moss told me today he was insta paid back. DIH personally sent money by bank transfer to everyone effected. They had really taken to Girah and thought he was almost their dream passport to Europe, they had been looking forward to this so much for the last 4 months or so.

Has DIH sweated players in live sessions? Yes. Have I? Yes. Have lots of people on here? Yes. Theres even a thread on EMS called "Sweat me thread" where people whoa re very well respected from all stakes imaginable do sweat sessions.

He made an account using a Canadian account so he could play on ipoker. I spoke to over 50 people who are currently using VPN's to play on European sites, once again frowned upoin, but hardly scummy.

He played on Girah's account to play 25/50 PLOHU, Girah played NLHU so not as if players would have had any "misreads" if anything if he made his own account then he would probably have gotten more action. This is obviously bad, but not the end of the world. Have I played on friends stars accounts for MTT's? Absolutely. Should I have? Absolutely not. Am I scummy? Definitely not.

As soon as DIH knew there was a problem he insta made Girah "Tell the fucking truth" he didnt treat him like a friend, he had complete remorse for the guys who had money stolen off them and he wholeheartedly spent every second of the day trying to sort it out.

He personally had dinners  in Gibraltar and always came across as a very nice guy to everybody concerned. We have god judges of character I hope, and nothing he has done so far shows me that he is anything close to scummy.

Nor am I on drugs.

Girah is another story...
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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2011, 11:24:50 PM »

DIH personally sent money by bank transfer to everyone effected.

Im perfectly willing to accept this could and prolly is a nice gesture.

But something feels a bit weird about the whole thing honestly - not saying there is necessarily anythign shady going on, but it feels way way different to most scandals like this, but I spose it prolly is lol

anyways, something not quite right in my mind.
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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2011, 11:25:28 PM »

hes incred imo

i know you enjoy a good nut-hug but this guy is beyond shady.

Hes very articulate and a very good writer which allows him to manipulate the masquerade but i think we'll see the plot thicken in the coming days.

talking about Haseeb obv

what is a nut-hug btw?

+1 on the articulate and good writer.
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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2011, 11:28:48 PM »

DIH personally sent money by bank transfer to everyone effected.

Im perfectly willing to accept this could and prolly is a nice gesture.

But something feels a bit weird about the whole thing honestly - not saying there is necessarily anythign shady going on, but it feels way way different to most scandals like this, but I spose it prolly is lol

anyways, something not quite right in my mind.

here is a post from a guy that is close to genius that i know and has no social skills at all. one of best poker minds out there but not very well known.

this is his thoughts anyway.

big shit happening..

this is my take on Girah situation for those who are interested. I ve spent 10h+ reading all the threads on 2+2 and blogs and tweets connected as well. Was rly interested.

put together from my skype conversations w other ppl, dont want to waste time editing:

it appears he got some downswing and psychologicall was so much into "proving" himself to others that he stopped caring abt any moral and just wanted to get to teh moniez he owed Jungle/DIH for the staking.

<<< he started w all of this 1 moht ago
when he went on a downswing
he was like 200k down, it might have been more, he maybe tried to conceal the real no.

<<< his banrkoll aint that big as of now coz he bought a house
and uncle scammed him for 300k before
so of the 2mil he had before, he had just few tens of k now, w the downswing
he couldnt even play NL5k now so the "few tens" of k WERE actually substantial for him. Tbh, i also think he signed up w pokerstrategy and stared coaching more liberally (many ppl for lower rates than other hs regs) purely for money. He got sick of the downswing and needed $$$ to rebuild confidence in other than playing.
he wanted to play Isildur chall
and Durrr chall
he got obsessed w success

also i think the moving in of Jungle/DIH messed up w his head bigtime
imagine he is playing poker for 2y, and now he has a chancce to live everyday w the absolute best, he cannot just be a mere NL2k grinder

<<< psychologically its easy to interpret this as a rush, sudden exlosion in his head, too much of stress and needed to make money no matter how imo so that he can benefit the most later on when they live w him from nosebleeds action

there is no way imo, this has been organized by more ppl. It makes no sense whatsoever that they would leave that much of evidence, and the alleged plrs - Dog and Jungle have way more to lose even than Girah did.
But esp the skype logs, the badly managed weird hands played, the forcing of Jose of action all DOESNT speak for an organized crime, rather than a kid who got too obsessed w success and just cannot let go when on downswing.
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« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2011, 12:04:25 AM »

lol pleno, you must be the biggest fanboy out there. I doubt he actually ever made $2mill in cash-games (mainly underraged) many ppl itt point out how easy it is to doctor these.

You should read the thread or at least the cliffs and stuff from reputable posters to make your own opinion.

Im no columbo but DIH and JM are acting rather odd for innocent "victims" in all this. I found it really weird how people could move to another country to move in with sum1 they know over the internet, claim to be really close and then ditch them and call them scum as soon as the s**t hits the fan. No smoke without fire n all that.
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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2011, 12:11:03 AM »

lol pleno, you must be the biggest fanboy out there. I doubt he actually ever made $2mill in cash-games (mainly underraged) many ppl itt point out how easy it is to doctor these.

You should read the thread or at least the cliffs and stuff from reputable posters to make your own opinion.

Im no columbo but DIH and JM are acting rather odd for innocent "victims" in all this. I found it really weird how people could move to another country to move in with sum1 they know over the internet, claim to be really close and then ditch them and call them scum as soon as the s**t hits the fan. No smoke without fire n all that.

lol.

I've read every post on the first thread (100 pages long) then over 50 pages on the second thread. I met Dogisead/Jungleman this weekend and then talked to Mathhew Moss, one of the main guys who had $$$$ stolen, so I think I am perfectly informed and not a fanboy Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2011, 01:38:08 AM »

Pads you're defo a fanboy!
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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2011, 01:51:37 AM »

played with the guy a lot (inc hu starting tables), spoke w him regularly on chat, thought he was ok till the bluff challenge thing burst out. the whole affair is super shady and there were deffo multiple users of his account depending on if he was grinding or playing higher. He and anyone associated with his accounts is extremely dodgy, agree w whollyflush that dogishead/sauce/jungleman are def involved somehow. the games had too small edges with too much money at stake for people to not cheat, this guy got foundout, makes you shudder about what else goes on.
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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2011, 09:28:48 AM »

jungleman/dih would never be involved with scaming people for 1-2k though, it really, really isn't worth it for them
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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2011, 10:30:56 AM »

lol just been told DIH got fired from CR.
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« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2011, 10:31:22 AM »

http://www.cardrunners.com/article/932/cardrunners-statement-regarding-haseeb-qureshi/
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« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2011, 11:08:47 AM »

http://www.irishpokerboards.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10319&page=3~

lol sigh
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« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2011, 01:00:40 PM »

can you sum all this up please fanboy pleno. I can't be arsed to read any of that,
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