Tottenham riots

[boldie]

What does "We police by consent" mean? Just involving community leaders? Do they think that's going to work?

It's slightly confusing terminology, but they use it a lot at times like this. What they're saying is that when you don't have what happened last night, it's not because people fear immediate action by the police and therefore don't do it; it's because they value the law and order which the police are there to protect.
Therefore you just don't have that many police around to protect from that sort of thing (3000 riot-trained police in London, lol).

Ah yes, that'll work.

It remains the best long-term option. You send the army in [ ] suddenly everything will calm down.

Long term you're obviously right. Short term talking to people and saying "But what about our values?" obviously doesn't work.

[AndrewT]

I'm just glad that it looks like there were no Gypsies involved in last night's rioting, otherwise this place would really have kicked off.

[ManuelsMum]

What does "We police by consent" mean? Just involving community leaders? Do they think that's going to work?

It's slightly confusing terminology, but they use it a lot at times like this. What they're saying is that when you don't have what happened last night, it's not because people fear immediate action by the police and therefore don't do it; it's because they value the law and order which the police are there to protect.
Therefore you just don't have that many police around to protect from that sort of thing (3000 riot-trained police in London, lol).

Ah yes, that'll work.

It remains the best long-term option. You send the army in [ ] suddenly everything will calm down.

Long term you're obviously right. Short term talking to people and saying "But what about our values?" obviously doesn't work.

Yeah ok, it's a dumb time for her to talk of 'policing by consent', conflating various ideas.
We don't normally go around with heavy-handed extremely visible police, because 'policing by consent' works.
We hit a bunch of dangerous riots > there may be an argument for not fighting it with the most heavy-handed, visible force (including the army), not because we prefer 'policing by consent here' but because inflammation and visible confrontation will lead to an escalation of rioting.
Big part of the problem is technology, apparently, just so easy for the loons to get on their Blackberries and pass on info about next targets. Just round up the Blackberry users imo.

[celtic]

Just set the disappointed dutch fans on them.

[Woodsey]

Time to crack some skulls tonight imo. Warn them in advance so they know what's coming.........

[boldie]

Just set the disappointed dutch fans on them.

I'd still fly to London if they said "All Dutch people can beat the crap and kick the shit out of all the rioters"...obv wouldn't want them to fight back or anything but am pretty peeved at the match not going ahead.

[Bongo]

Aren't all Blackberry messages routed through the government anyway, should be simple enough to use the info to get there first.

[Matt.NFFC.]

Time to crack some skulls tonight imo. Warn them in advance so they know what's coming.........

+1

[ManuelsMum]

Aren't all Blackberry messages routed through the government anyway, should be simple enough to use the info to get there first.

I'm sure it goes on at the higher Echelons

[pleno1]

Time to crack some skulls tonight imo. Warn them in advance so they know what's coming.........

+1

[bobAlike]

Aren't all Blackberry messages routed through the government anyway, should be simple enough to use the info to get there first.

I'm sure it goes on at the higher Echelons

RIM, the makers of Blackberry have stated that they will assist the police.

[Bongo]

http://catchalooter.tumblr.com/

Social media is a double edged sword!

[Graham C]

Time to crack some skulls tonight imo. Warn them in advance so they know what's coming.........

+1

I agree with this, there comes a time where things have gone far too far and if there's nothing the Police can do about it then there's nothing for the idiots to be afraid of.

[Woodsey]

Time to crack some skulls tonight imo. Warn them in advance so they know what's coming.........

+1

Its all this namby pamby PC bullshit that has created all the health and safety rules so that make the police so cautious. They need free rein to go and do what they need to do, and the trouble makers need to be told there will be no comeback if they get hurt as they were warned in advance.

Go get 'em lads!

[boldie]

I have changed my mind after readin this

Isna students news agency (in English), Iran

Iran called for London police to exercise self-restraint in dealing with protesters in Tottenham, north of London. Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast referred to Saturday night's massive protests in Tottenham, which came following [the killing] of a young black man by Scotland Yard police and called for the UK government to avoid any police's harsh treatment with protesters. He stressed return of peace and calm to London through talks and examining demands of the demonstrators. Mehmanparast expressed hope independent human rights bodies would take measures to make clear facts behind murder of the black man soon.

Iran calling for the UK police to show restraint....oh boy.