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« Reply #270 on: August 09, 2011, 03:40:56 PM »

She is in touch with reality and has more clue than most politicians




lets not forget there is always a  catalyst to these people rioting and that always starts with police brutality. same today as the 80's and the Rodney King riots in the states
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« Reply #271 on: August 09, 2011, 03:47:45 PM »

http://www.thedrum.co.uk/news/2011/08/09/24636-strathclyde-police-arrests-16-year-old-over-glasgow-facebook-riot-page/

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« Reply #272 on: August 09, 2011, 03:50:53 PM »


Saw one for Wigan as well.  I can imagine there are loads of these.  Idiots.
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« Reply #273 on: August 09, 2011, 03:52:48 PM »

She is in touch with reality and has more clue than most politicians




lets not forget there is always a  catalyst to these people rioting and that always starts with police brutality. same today as the 80's and the Rodney King riots in the states

+1, they're almost exactly the same situation. Except in one the police used excessive force, continually battering a guy (albeit a guy who was resisting arrest somewhat). And in the other a guy was in a car shooting at police and got dead when fire was returned. Some scummy met cop took a bullet in his radio instead of in the heart like a real man.




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« Reply #274 on: August 09, 2011, 03:57:25 PM »

Wasn't it a police bullet he took in his radio though? Or has that changed again now?
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« Reply #275 on: August 09, 2011, 03:58:31 PM »

She is in touch with reality and has more clue than most politicians


lets not forget there is always a  catalyst to these people rioting and that always starts with police brutality. same today as the 80's and the Rodney King riots in the states

think that's abso bollocks mate. Probably did start with the shooting in Tottenham, but the rest are just copycats with no justified reason at all. There is a term being banded around at the minute called 'Recreational Looting' and i think that explains it. They are just doing it simply because they want to.




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« Reply #276 on: August 09, 2011, 04:02:16 PM »

Jason, these riots have absolutely zero to do with that guy getting shot, or police brutality.

They're about a generation of teenagers who have no future who just had the most exciting night of their drab, dull lives.
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« Reply #277 on: August 09, 2011, 04:02:26 PM »

She is in touch with reality and has more clue than most politicians


lets not forget there is always a  catalyst to these people rioting and that always starts with police brutality. same today as the 80's and the Rodney King riots in the states

think that's abso bollocks mate. Probably did start with the shooting in Tottenham, but the rest are just copycats with no justified reason at all. There is a term being banded around at the minute called 'Recreational Looting' and i think that explains it. They are just doing it simply because they want to.

yeah this - it may have started with a bit of police brutality (a drug dealer with a gun getting shot)

But if it was just that then it would have only been the first nights troubles.
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« Reply #278 on: August 09, 2011, 04:11:53 PM »

Did a search on Twitter for Hammersmith to see what was being said about potential trouble. Quite a few tweets saying things like 'OMG - all kicking off, shops all shut, looting started', then plenty of people saying 'WTF - I'm there and nothing is happening'.

Plenty of drama queens about.
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« Reply #279 on: August 09, 2011, 04:21:36 PM »

A thing that puzzles me is when people outside in the street and a riot starts, the first thing they feel the need to do is go on twitter to say "omg, riots".  This would be the last thing on my mind I expect.
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« Reply #280 on: August 09, 2011, 04:23:48 PM »

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« Reply #281 on: August 09, 2011, 04:40:21 PM »

Wasn't it a police bullet he took in his radio though? Or has that changed again now?

Yep was a police bullet.  Seems he didn't fire at all.  Obviously that doesn't mean any of this is justified and to be honest I think linking the rioting to this incident is pretty counter productive at this point.
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« Reply #282 on: August 09, 2011, 04:47:37 PM »

Wasn't it a police bullet he took in his radio though? Or has that changed again now?

Yep was a police bullet.  Seems he didn't fire at all. 

He did apparently have a gun though.
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« Reply #283 on: August 09, 2011, 04:51:09 PM »

These guys must have been really annoyed that all the laptops had gone by the time they'd got there.

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« Reply #284 on: August 09, 2011, 04:51:23 PM »

If the Army were to be used, I'd like to see something in the order of:

Saturate the area and herd them all into one area - contain/kettle, call it what you like.

Once contained, ship into a fleet of trucks and taken to some disused Army camp or similar, then processed over a few days.

Mugshots/Fingerprints/DNA/Personal details taken. When run through the various datbases at a later time would probably identify culprits for various crimes not even linked to the current situation.

Using any photographic/CCTV evidence where possible to identify any currently held, charge and transport to prison to be remanded before appearing at court. Most importantly, ensure the sentencing reflects that we will no longer tolerate this sort of crap.

Will it happen, probably not because immediate costs would be huge. Guaranteed the costs for going about it without the above process will be just as large, if not more.

Yes, there maybe some unfortunates amongst them, however for a few days hardship gotta be worth the sacrifice, after all think of the years of hardship that has been inflicted on so many innocents so far due to loss of businesses/homes due to these morons.

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So long as it was somewhere with no access to journalists, CCTV, mobile phones (cameras) & sandal wearing liberals etc... they could be 'processed' properly!  
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