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« on: August 18, 2011, 09:37:05 PM »

Has David Cameron become a War Criminal just like his hero Tony Bliar?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8709510/RAF-airstrikes-sink-boat-filled-with-Gaddafi-troops-after-refinery-battle.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 09:48:23 PM »

Why?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 10:06:16 PM »

It's pretty disgraceful what we are doing in Libya.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 10:07:09 PM »

It's pretty disgraceful what we are doing in Libya.

Why Glenn? (honest enquiry, no agenda)
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 10:08:35 PM »

Has anyone ever been tried as a War criminal when they won a war?
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 10:16:33 PM »

Has anyone ever been tried as a War criminal when they won a war?

Wisest words I heard for a long time.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 10:50:14 PM »

Let an unelected 'leader' instruct his forces to shoot unarmed civilians who dare to peacefully protest against him? Stand back and do nothing for them?
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 10:55:07 PM »

Let an unelected 'leader' instruct his forces to shoot unarmed civilians who dare to peacefully protest against him? Stand back and do nothing for them?

So why aren't we in Syria? Zimbabwe? China? etc.?

And whilst we are at it, would you then support foreign bombing of UK miltary personnel after Bloody Sunday in Ulster circa 1970?
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 10:57:44 PM »

It's pretty disgraceful what we are doing in Libya.

Why Glenn? (honest enquiry, no agenda)

My perspective is that Gadaffi has been in power for 40 odd years. At the time of Lockerbie and perhaps other atrocities commited (probably with his tacit approval), there may have been some rationale for having a bunfight with Libya. In the last 6 or 7 years Prime Minister's of this country have treated him as an ally.

In this situation, there was an uprising - I'm not really sure what we expect the Libyan government to do other than try to suppress the rebellion. So, it feels very opportunistic to step in now, support the uprising and in the process, kill lots of people on the Government side.

We are quick to hide behind a general motif of not wanting to interfere in sovereign affairs of a state when it suits us, eg recent past genocides in Africa.

The fact there is a UN resolution has little resonance with me as we don't have to subscribe to a UN view of specific situations.

I don't doubt that Gadaffi is despicable, tyrannical & murderous but I don't like it when our government engages in moral relativism to justify action/inaction.



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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 10:58:16 PM »

Let an unelected 'leader' instruct his forces to shoot unarmed civilians who dare to peacefully protest against him? Stand back and do nothing for them?

So why arn't we in Syria? Zimbabwe? China? etc.?

Cos we can win this one.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 10:59:05 PM »

Let an unelected 'leader' instruct his forces to shoot unarmed civilians who dare to peacefully protest against him? Stand back and do nothing for them?

So why aren't we in Syria? Zimbabwe? China? etc.?

And whilst we are at it, would you then support foreign bombing of UK miltary personnel after Bloody Sunday in Ulster circa 1970?

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 11:09:24 PM »

Has anyone ever been tried as a War criminal when they won a war?

Wisest words I heard for a long time.

It´s not clear to me what is wise about these words. In answer to the question yes, people have been tried and convcited as war criminals having been on the "winning" side in a conflict. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 11:09:37 PM »

Let an unelected 'leader' instruct his forces to shoot unarmed civilians who dare to peacefully protest against him? Stand back and do nothing for them?

So why arn't we in Syria? Zimbabwe? China? etc.?

Cos we can win this one.

But Tone told us he was OK and we should be trading with him not so long ago!
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 11:11:49 PM »

Has anyone ever been tried as a War criminal when they won a war?

Wisest words I heard for a long time.

It´s not clear to me what is wise about these words. In answer to the question yes, people have been tried and convcited as war criminals having been on the "winning" side in a conflict. 

Can you give one example of a British or American that has ever been tried and or convicted in an International court?
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 11:17:26 PM »

So, when we go into Israel will we have to fight the Yanks as well?
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