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« on: September 02, 2011, 06:43:26 AM »

In my regular 50p/£1 live game at Gala with good regs and bad regs. Image is incorrectly fairly aggro. Effective stack vs villain is 200bb

Reads on villain: massive calling station, can bet virtually any one pair hand versus him for value but is capable of a few moves sometimes.

Hand: mid position.

Villain raises to £6 utg+1, I call, folds to the blinds who complete.

Flop is Two Diamonds checked round. Turn is giving me a double gutshot flush draw. Checked to me again I bet £17. Everyone calls. River is . Villain leads for £51. We ??
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 08:21:37 AM »

Call for sure
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 09:29:13 AM »

min raise/fold
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 11:21:53 AM »

he's got £127 back?

Jam imo it's not even close. ud be very very unlucky for him to have a better hand here.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 11:26:20 AM »

How come you guys want to raise? I think the only hands that are betting are AK and missed draws. Villian shouldn't show up with 2pair/sets here often at all i think.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 11:29:47 AM »

I just flat, too many AK combos in his range vs hands he bets 1/2pot that we beat.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 11:39:50 AM »

I'd feel fairly nitty about it but I'd just call here. Vs a smaller bet size defo jam, but this bet is quite polarising IMO. Ppl at gala have AK a lot here. Never folding though.

He could have JJ if he likes to trap you young kids by c/r the flop.

I don't think he has a missed draw hardly ever here. I mean, all the cards are gone right? He's raised 6x utg. what hh hand can he have that choses to bluff the river here? Only a7 a2-5hh which is like 5combos. And most gala fish dont 6x those hands ftg. They do a limp and then they do a call. Or 3/4x. Usually the former.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 01:01:01 PM »

I'd feel fairly nitty about it but I'd just call here. Vs a smaller bet size defo jam, but this bet is quite polarising IMO. Ppl at gala have AK a lot here. Never folding though.

He could have JJ if he likes to trap you young kids by c/r the flop.

I don't think he has a missed draw hardly ever here. I mean, all the cards are gone right? He's raised 6x utg. what hh hand can he have that choses to bluff the river here? Only a7 a2-5hh which is like 5combos. And most gala fish dont 6x those hands ftg. They do a limp and then they do a call. Or 3/4x. Usually the former.

Despite the description of an old man, villain in this hand is Jay Liu
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 01:02:02 PM »

then shove
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 08:29:07 PM »

How come you guys want to raise? I think the only hands that are betting are AK and missed draws. Villian shouldn't show up with 2pair/sets here often at all i think.

i obviously dont think that or I wouldnt advocate a raise lol

I might be wrong but i cant see villain having QT and not thinking he has the best hand,
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 08:14:52 PM »

If you do raise the river...its to achieve what ?  hopefully you are ahead and get called by 2 pair or a set ?...this is not going to happen unless the villian is really bad. He led out on the river  reping AK , K9 or you both have the same hand with 98.   Its  a no brainer call only for me
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2011, 07:07:52 PM »

people are all joke nits, or these games are shit, the games I play in Id be pretty dam tempted to jam QJ for value.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 02:55:21 PM »

jq basically = 89 here
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