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« on: September 19, 2011, 03:56:28 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 03:57:48 PM »

Javelin's probably better.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 03:58:25 PM »

Fuck 'em /thread
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 04:02:44 PM »

i would be charged with man slaughter!

Someone literally tried to kick our front doors in whilst we slept 3 years ago (to steal my car keys). The anguish this has cuased my wife since is untold

They would be lying dead if they tried again
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 04:03:11 PM »

If they can be avoided then leave them to it.

Chances are they're far more violent then you are so just make a bit of noise so they know you're there and hope they go away. Insurance is there to replace your stuff so let them have it.

My personal choice would always be to avoid if possible. If not I'd try to get to my dog's room, open the door and let him deal with it.

How that would go down in the eyes of the law I have no idea.

More chance of him getting away with it than me as far as I'm aware when it's on my property.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 04:05:36 PM »

i would be charged with man slaughter!

Someone literally tried to kick our front doors in whilst we slept 3 years ago (to steal my car keys). The anguish this has cuased my wife since is untold

They would be lying dead if they tried again

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All sounds good in theory but I'm afraid real life situations just don't go this way.

As much as you like to protect your wife I very much doubt you have it in you to kill a man Guy.

Maybe in a kill or be killed situation but until you know it's gone that far there's no chance.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 04:07:42 PM »

The fact that a homeowner will in all likelihood be angry/afraid makes it very difficult for them to respond in a measured/considered way. Obviously the law requires that the response is reasonable in terms in force and quite rightly so. I don´t have any sympathy for someone who breaks in to a house and gets a whack/rottweiler bite for their trouble but they certainly aren´t fair game for umilimited violence.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 04:11:47 PM »

I'm with Matt on this 100%. I'd step outside and give them a bitova 'bemyguest' on the way out if I happened to bump into them.

Been burgled twice and, perhaps, because they were courteous and did no gratuitous damage, it has never bothered me at all. I mean I don't wish for it to happen of course but can't say I've ever lost a moments sleep - guess we're all different.

Also, not being there at the time probably skews things heavily in terms of being unbothered.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 04:14:31 PM »

BY the way, I'm obviously proper naughty, snide, hard. So, if my bemyguest didn't work and they made a move on me or my family I would unleash hell on them.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 04:17:27 PM »

i would be charged with man slaughter!

Someone literally tried to kick our front doors in whilst we slept 3 years ago (to steal my car keys). The anguish this has cuased my wife since is untold

They would be lying dead if they tried again

[ ] believe.

All sounds good in theory but I'm afraid real life situations just don't go this way.

As much as you like to protect your wife I very much doubt you have it in you to kill a man Guy.

Maybe in a kill or be killed situation but until you know it's gone that far there's no chance.

I sincerely hope i never find out!

I wouldnt knowingly kill them - but there would be no BMG in my attitude as nirvana suggests. I would protect my property as the law allows
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 04:33:50 PM »

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/no-charge-homeowner-over-burglar-stabbing-102227647.html
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 04:46:09 PM »

Think they should be fair game once on your property, I however would take Matt's line all day I think. Obviously if there is direct danger then this changes and I think it's anyones guess as to how each person will respond. I definitely wouldn't be sending the dog down though as a Cocker Spaniel that's only interested in food isn't gonna do much damage Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 04:47:32 PM »

What happens if someone enters my garden and gets torn to shreds by my dog?

There's a 6ft fence all the way round so it's not easy to access.

There's approximately a 100% chance that if someone entered my garden and the dog could get at them that he would cause considerable harm.

One of the reasons that I keep him locked away is because I worry about what he might do to an intruder.

I don't care about the intruder but if I had to have Ronnie put down for ripping someone's face off it would be awful.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 04:52:20 PM »

i had a bizarre situation after getting burgled years ago when a couple of weeks later i spotted someone i know wearing the brand new £400 jacket that had got nicked during the burglary.

He's a criminal but not the burglary type and i certainly didn't want trouble with him, asked him anyway. A few days later he rang and i met him in a pub where he gave me 3k to cover the stolen items. Didn't ask but assume someone was at least threatened with violence, apart from the jacket the nicked stuff was probably only worth somewhere between £500-1k.

I totally sympathise with the desire to react with violence, my mum had an incident with an attempted burglary and she was deeply traumatised for years to the point she slept with a big knife under her pillow for a long time. It made me sick/angry to see her so upset and afraid in her own home.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 05:00:30 PM »

burglar in your house, you go downstairs with you robe and a knife/bat/whatever he opens the front door to get out and escape but trips.

do you

a)let him go
b)bash him

if b, how many times?
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