Confirmed: Bots on iPoker

[AndrewT]

http://www.williamhillpoker.com/terms.htm

http://www.williamhillcasino.com/terms.htm

10.1.1.4 isn't on the poker one.

[Bainn]

http://www.williamhillpoker.com/terms.htm

http://www.williamhillcasino.com/terms.htm

10.1.1.4 isn't on the poker one.

Groovy, thanks.

The T & C's I thought I linked to in a previous post where found at poker.williamhill.com after a quick Google.

[snoopy1239]

Where is it confirmed?

[tikay]

i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)

im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.  

 
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.

To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.

From their terms and conditions -

10.1.1.4  in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You;

Plus, there is this apparent quote from customer support -

"Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)"

That is incorrect. The T & C's as to "bots" is under the Casino section, it is NOT in the Poker section.

As to the info given in the call to CC, it's clear it was a palpable error, which has been explained. CC Agents for Online Gaming Sites are usually sub-contracted to outside agencies, or are freelance staff, & are notorious for not accurately knowing the fine detail.

The whole Thread is typical 2+2 over-rectionments in my personal opinion, looking for shadows which are not there, with the usual incredible scare & conspiracy theories woven in, & "it's the end of the world" type nonsense.

I have no flag to fly for i-Poker, God knows I loathe them for the disgraceful way they treated blonde, & with-held monies wrongfully from our Clients, & us, but the thread is as near to a level as it gets, & anyway, it does not mean we should not be fair & sensible in our views & opinions towards them. In my opinion, that is.....

There may well be bots on the poker site, but if so, they are not sanctioned by WHP or i-Poker.

There was a highly amusing part of the thread where it became evident that these "secret" bots not only all had the "bot" prefix in their screen-name (as they do on the Casino Sites), but they even chatted in the Chat Box, & watched other Tourneys!

Maybe it's me being whooshed, but someone is, clearly.

[kinboshi]

There was a highly amusing part of the thread where it became evident that these "secret" bots not only all had the "bot" prefix in their screen-name (as they do on the Casino Sites), but they even chatted in the Chat Box, & watched other Tourneys!

Maybe it's me being whooshed, but someone is, clearly.

These are obviously the latest generation T-X bots - and they watch other tournaments to learn and improve.

[smashedagain]

its been pretty common knowledge the midstakes NL games are full of them (Stu + Alex Martin best people to ask)

Dyer88 I agree, never seen him tank on a desicion in my life - theres a few others i think at 100-400plo as well

i thought i posted that i possibly know dyer88 dave but it got removed for some reason, possibly mentioning 3 other poker sites on i poker. still waiting for him to get up and confirm

[gatso]

what are the casino games that have bots in them?

[millidonk]

its been pretty common knowledge the midstakes NL games are full of them (Stu + Alex Martin best people to ask)

Dyer88 I agree, never seen him tank on a desicion in my life - theres a few others i think at 100-400plo as well

i thought i posted that i possibly know dyer88 dave but it got removed for some reason, possibly mentioning 3 other poker sites on i poker. still waiting for him to get up and confirm

Possibly know..  Not Kieron is it, he played number 8?

[geordieneil]

its been pretty common knowledge the midstakes NL games are full of them (Stu + Alex Martin best people to ask)

Dyer88 I agree, never seen him tank on a desicion in my life - theres a few others i think at 100-400plo as well

i thought i posted that i possibly know dyer88 dave but it got removed for some reason, possibly mentioning 3 other poker sites on i poker. still waiting for him to get up and confirm

Possibly know..  Not Kieron is it, he played number 8?

Not Kieron, i reckon its Danny........88 was the last year he made a movie or tv show worth watching

[Bainn]

what are the casino games that have bots in them?

Glad you asked, I am finding it hard to imagine which casino/table games would require bots ?

[smashedagain]

Errr false alarm. My mates called Dwyer not Dyer..... Must be a bot then lol.

[StuartHopkin]

i heard from a v well know/respected/credible source who plays 2/4-10/20 on ipoker that there are a lot of bots playing a very specific style. they have beaten even 5/10 using this weird strat but slowly more regs were noticing the tendencies. (the bots were not shortstackers)

im almost certain there are shortstacking bots at low-mid stakes plo on there also and a few others have also mentioned the same suspicion.  

 
Can't believe they have admitted to having a bot of their own though. I say good- hopefully it will cause Ipoker to clean up their act after the inevitable 2+2 witchhunt.

To be fair, I don't believe they have, as such.

From their terms and conditions -

10.1.1.4  in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre-programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming although we will not use bots without making such usage clear to You;

Plus, there is this apparent quote from customer support -

"Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot)"

That is incorrect. The T & C's as to "bots" is under the Casino section, it is NOT in the Poker section.

As to the info given in the call to CC, it's clear it was a palpable error, which has been explained. CC Agents for Online Gaming Sites are usually sub-contracted to outside agencies, or are freelance staff, & are notorious for not accurately knowing the fine detail.

The whole Thread is typical 2+2 over-rectionments in my personal opinion, looking for shadows which are not there, with the usual incredible scare & conspiracy theories woven in, & "it's the end of the world" type nonsense.

I have no flag to fly for i-Poker, God knows I loathe them for the disgraceful way they treated blonde, & with-held monies wrongfully from our Clients, & us, but the thread is as near to a level as it gets, & anyway, it does not mean we should not be fair & sensible in our views & opinions towards them. In my opinion, that is.....

There may well be bots on the poker site, but if so, they are not sanctioned by WHP or i-Poker.

There was a highly amusing part of the thread where it became evident that these "secret" bots not only all had the "bot" prefix in their screen-name (as they do on the Casino Sites), but they even chatted in the Chat Box, & watched other Tourneys!

Maybe it's me being whooshed, but someone is, clearly.

Not like Bainn to get the wrong end of the stick.

[boldie]

Not like Bainn to get the wrong end of the stick.

TFB

[outragous76]

Not like Bainn to get the wrong end of the stick.

TFB

My version rhymes with yours anyway stu

[easypickings]

What is amazing about the bots is that they are very "unbot like," in so far as it is really difficult to read any predictable tendencies, or find too much to exploit.

It's worrying that iPoker has known about this for so long, and still nothing has been done.