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« on: October 18, 2011, 12:41:41 AM »

as title says,


as the last video was taken down ive put a link to a much cuter one involving a baby rabbit sleeping. Sorry for spoiler but didnt want mods to call me a prick




THE LINK BELOW IS TO A NEWS REPORT OF THE INCIDENT NOT A VIDEO,

Link contained the video

The Chinese toddler who was ignored by 18 passers-by after being the victim of a hit-and-run accident in a wholesale market in southern China is likely to remain in a persistent vegetative state, according to senior hospital doctors treating her.

Chinese toddler run over and ignored 'to remain in vegetative state'

Video footage of the incident involving 2-year-old Wang Yue – known by her pet family name Yueyue – caused outrage in China and around the world on Tuesday, prompting questions about whether China's economic miracle had left a moral vacuum in its wake.

The girl, who was eventually scooped up and rescued by the nineteenth passer-by remains in a critical condition in the intensive care unit of Guangzhou military hospital in China's industrial heartland of Guangdong.

The hospital's head of neurosurgery, quoted by the local Guangzhou Daily newspaper, said that Yueyue had suffered massive head injuries and was in a coma, only able to breathe with the aid of a ventilator.

Wang Weiming, head of the neurosurgery department at the general hospital of Guangzhou military region, said Yueyue had shown no improvement and was very unlikely to recover her mental faculties.

"The patient largely fits the criteria of brain death," he added, "but her limbs are relatively sensible to a pain reflex, so she cannot be determined as brain-dead."

The girl's parents, who owned a small stall in the wholesale market in nearby Foshan, where the incident happened, were maintaining a rotating vigil at their daughter's bedside, hoping against hope that she might recover.

The girl's mother, named as Mrs Qu, said she had moved to Foshan in 2003 to start up the shop and had rented an apartment nearby.

The middle class couple said they had been inundated with calls of support and offers of donations for their daughter's medical care, but had declined the offers, saying they were "much appreciated" but not needed.

The distraught parents have avoided voicing their feelings over the incident, saying they wanted only to focus on Yueyue's recovery, but her grandfather, named as Mr Wang, admitted to a local newspaper that he "hated those cold-blooded passers-by".

He added that he had recognised at least one of the passersby. "I wanted to beat him, but at last I held myself back," he was quoted as saying in the Southern Metropolis Daily.

The story of Yueyue has both touched and angered millions of people in China and around the world.

In China, the TV report of the incident was viewed more than 2 million times on the internet within 24 hours and on Sina Weibo – China's version of Twitter – it attracted 4.4 million comments in the same period, organised under the hashtag "Please end the cold-heartedness."

By last night the story appeared to have sparked a national campaign on Sina Weibo under the banner "Please Stop Apathy" which was the number one trending topic, with thousands of posts calling for a return to moral consciousness in China.

"Little Yueyue's tragedy should not be repeated, the morality should not disappear, our hearts must still have a conscience. From today, offer to help those who need your help, because caring for others is just help yourself," said the call for change.

The public discussion reached even the pages of People's Daily, the mouthpiece of China's ruling Communist Party that usually remains aloof from such mass debates when they erupt on China's vibrant internet discussion boards.

"Although saving people constantly brings 'trouble,' nonetheless, ignoring the dying or even helping with evil acts by negligence is ripping apart society's ethical baseline and dissolving any sense of conscience deep in the souls of the public," wrote a senior columnist, Li Hongbing.

The one person who attracted universal praise for her warmheartedness was Yueyue's rescuer, 58-year-old Chen Xianmei who was said to work as a domestic helper by day and supplement her income by collecting rubbish for recycling at night.

Yueyue's parents were photographed meeting the woman, bowing down in a ritual 'kowtow' – a public expression of gratitude that she had stopped to help their daughter when so many others had walked on by.

The woman said she had thought about the risk of malicious prosecution when she intervened to help Yueyue – the reason widely given in China why 18 others did not stop to help – adding that she responded instinctively.

She told reporters she had found Yueyue with one eye shut and the other eye open looking at her and had rushed around searching for her mother. "I didn't think I was getting into any trouble. I didn't think so much. I just wanted to help her," she said, before returning to work.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 12:44:08 AM »

No mod called you anything of the sort.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 12:50:35 AM »

No mod called you anything of the sort.

There was certainly a very rude name he got called in the edit comments from the mod. If it wasn't prick it was something very similar, I saw it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 12:53:36 AM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 01:05:16 AM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here


just got a message from a mod for reason for deletion, and i gotta say a pretty poor excuse. If a member or 2 complained then i would agree but its a relevant news piece that highlights the social and ethical lack of everyday morals.

The poor child and family that this happened too deserve for this story not to just be dismissed as its a little gory but to be discussed and widely exposed.

Maybe I should of put a better description of the turn of events in the op but this should never of been deleted.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 01:10:06 AM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here


just got a message from a mod for reason for deletion, and i gotta say a pretty poor excuse. If a member or 2 complained then i would agree but its a relevant news piece that highlights the social and ethical lack of everyday morals.

The poor child and family that this happened too deserve for this story not to just be dismissed as its a little gory but to be discussed and widely exposed.

Maybe I should of put a better description of the turn of events in the op but this should never of been deleted.

Its still a story without the video, in fact more of one. All the follow up posts were naturally about peoples personal reaction to the video, or some generalisation about china or chiness people, not about the broader issue.

So, take the discussion down any path you want, that's wide open to you  and I'd love to hear more from you on the subject raised
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 01:12:37 AM »

Glenn is right. The story is a terrible one and discussion of it is welcome. The video itself was horrific and the link wa too much.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 01:16:36 AM »

Story is?
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 01:20:07 AM »

Story is?

a young chinese child is run over by a van, then ignored by multiple people and left on a street floor until a lady picks her up prob doing a huge amount of damage (not on purpose).
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 01:25:50 AM »

just as a thought did anyone complain or was it a mods decision to remove?
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 01:39:04 AM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here


just got a message from a mod for reason for deletion, and i gotta say a pretty poor excuse. If a member or 2 complained then i would agree but its a relevant news piece that highlights the social and ethical lack of everyday morals.

The poor child and family that this happened too deserve for this story not to just be dismissed as its a little gory but to be discussed and widely exposed.

Maybe I should of put a better description of the turn of events in the op but this should never of been deleted.

Its still a story without the video, in fact more of one. All the follow up posts were naturally about peoples personal reaction to the video, or some generalisation about china or chiness people, not about the broader issue.

So, take the discussion down any path you want, that's wide open to you  and I'd love to hear more from you on the subject raised

in today's society the modern media is portrayed in video form, if I had put up a link to a newspaper article it would not have many people discussing it outside of this forum. With the inclusion of the video I guarantee that most people upset, repulsed or disgusted by the video are more likely to tell others about the story. I believe that poor girl got igored for long enough on the floor of that street and shouldnt be ignored on what is supposed to be a open adult website.
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 11:55:58 AM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here

Doogan posted the topic which clearly said it was the most disturbing video he'd ever seen. I personally watched it and was upset/horrified, but it didn't seem like it was posted so that the OP could just get kicks from people's reactions.

I don't understand why any mod should be calling anyone a 'prick' or similar for that.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 12:03:39 PM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here

Doogan posted the topic which clearly said it was the most disturbing video he'd ever seen. I personally watched it and was upset/horrified, but it didn't seem like it was posted so that the OP could just get kicks from people's reactions.

I don't understand why any mod should be calling anyone a 'prick' or similar for that.

Shut up you prick.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 12:16:19 PM »

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here

Doogan posted the topic which clearly said it was the most disturbing video he'd ever seen. I personally watched it and was upset/horrified, but it didn't seem like it was posted so that the OP could just get kicks from people's reactions.

I don't understand why any mod should be calling anyone a 'prick' or similar for that.

Shut up you prick.

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 12:26:35 PM »

I had this sort of semi intelligent discussion with Celtic  ( i know..you gotta give him a chance )

My argument being this is a public forum and that I felt the mods were a little draconian in their approach in some instances..taking their personal opinions and preferences into account rather than being objective...

I think people should be able to post their views pretty much as they like as long as they don't step over certain standard boundries...

The chinese girl video was probably the most horrific real life thing i have ever seen and the callous attitude of the passers by is beyond human belief.. however the video is in the public domain and Doogan although he could have brought it to our attention a little better was just simply doing this..alerting us to something in the public domain..mods need to be a bit more objective or soon there won't be a forum .. i personally hardly post on discussion threads for fear of incurring the wrath of a mod
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