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« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2011, 05:02:07 PM »

Those that did watch the video, would you forward the link to your friends so that they could watch it too? Or post it on a forum or on your Facebook wall? What were your feelings about watching a video like that (as opposed to the morality of the actions of those involved), and why do you think it merits  being shared?

I didn't post it on my facebook because of younger relatives etc, otherwise, as a shocking news story I would have. Obv with a warning.

It's a bit of an eye opener to a few other cultures - I personally wouldn't have thought this happens in somewhere like China. Also raises issues of a culture where suing for everything has got ridiculous

Do you really think people being sued was the reason they didn't stop?

Some kid gets knocked over and nobody will help in case they get sued? Sounds like media bullshit to me.

I understand people just not giving a crap so they leave her and hope someone else will sort it but I can't buy the suing thing.

Then there's something very wrong with their state/country if people couldnt give a shit about a young girl hit by a car. Why do you think people don't give a crap?

Part of that reason is undoubtedly corruption mate.
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« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2011, 05:03:27 PM »

last week a bus driver in China refused to help a old lady on his bus who had a turn for the worst until 4 other passengers had sworn to testify he hadnt done anything wrong
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« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2011, 05:04:55 PM »

will just stick to Celtics a cock posts...

Be silly to quit on this story when 80% of people agree with you for the safety of a thread where 100% will agree... way too sensitive imo
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« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2011, 05:07:36 PM »

This is turning into 'problems in Chinese society shocker'

Families use to regularly kill off their female offspring due to mandates on ze number of kids one could have.
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« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2011, 05:11:39 PM »

this is a very good post on the moral side of it, IT HAS NO VIDEO

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100111377/china-ponders-its-lack-of-good-samaritans/
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« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2011, 05:18:21 PM »

Why couldn't one of the passers by phone the emergency services and remain anon?
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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2011, 05:21:32 PM »

Interesting that this story seems to shock more than some random innocent who gets stabbed whilst trying to break up a fight or a little black girl in London who gets gunned down accidentally in a drive-by. Or the amount of people in the UK that would do nothing whilst someone gets the shit beaten out of him.

Not saying it's not shocking, just asking where the outrage is in those instances.

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« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2011, 05:25:43 PM »

major difference, this girl is 2 yrs old walking around looking for her mum. These  people looked at her and in some cases had to go around her to go down the road
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« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2011, 05:28:24 PM »

Not saying it's not shocking mate. Sometimes I just wonder where the line where people should be shocked is.
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« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2011, 05:33:05 PM »

Seems that walking on by is more normal than people would like to think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
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« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2011, 05:34:15 PM »

Interesting that this story seems to shock more than some random innocent who gets stabbed whilst trying to break up a fight or a little black girl in London who gets gunned down accidentally in a drive-by. Or the amount of people in the UK that would do nothing whilst someone gets the shit beaten out of him.

Not saying it's not shocking, just asking where the outrage is in those instances.



ofc there's outrage in those instances. there was plenty of outrage at that little girl being killed.

If you were trying to prevent an attack then fine, but often pretty silly to try break up a fight.

this is a toddler ffs and people are just ignoring her. I doubt ppl ignored the person who got stabbed or the little girl when she got shot.
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« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2011, 05:35:09 PM »

Seems that walking on by is more normal than people would like to think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese


yeah its a epidemic,l 2 cases in 47 years
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« Reply #102 on: October 18, 2011, 05:45:33 PM »

Seems that walking on by is more normal than people would like to think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese


yeah its a epidemic,l 2 cases in 47 years

There were obv many more cases, the Genovese case sparked a lot of research looking for explanations of the phenomenon, and metaresearch that examined crime data and intervention-versus-number of bystander analysis. The more bystanders you have, the less likely people are to intervene.
"There are, in fact, many reasons why bystanders in groups fail to act in emergency situations, but social psychologists have focused most of their attention on two major factors. According to a basic principle of social influence, bystanders monitor the reactions of other people in an emergency situation to see if others think that it is necessary to intervene. Since everyone is doing exactly the same thing (nothing), they all conclude from the inaction of others that help is not needed. This is an example of pluralistic ignorance or social proof. The other major obstacle to intervention is known as diffusion of responsibility. This occurs when observers all assume that someone else is going to intervene and so each individual feels less responsible and refrains from doing anything."

Accordingly, these chinese people aren't really being pricks, more just being human. If Yue Yue had similarly been injured in London, it would be entirely possible that bystanders would not have reacted differently. Maybe another story in somewhere like Quebec, or Brazil, where passers-by can be prosecuted under criminal law for failing to intervene.

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« Reply #103 on: October 18, 2011, 05:54:33 PM »

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« Reply #104 on: October 18, 2011, 06:34:26 PM »

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