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« on: October 20, 2011, 03:17:29 PM »

6max cash 100bbs.

1) We are playng vs a reg who we have been caught 4b folding vs and getting it in semi light for value by 3b/5b (9's)

He opens 3x in the sb and we make it 9x in the bb.

He jams

We call with? And why?


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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 03:29:03 PM »

cash/mtt?

stack sizes in hand (in bbs)
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 03:48:45 PM »

done hero, apologies x
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 04:23:32 PM »

I hate your threads so much
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 04:35:04 PM »

AA, nuts
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 04:39:49 PM »

I won a big pot with  the other day, so i'd call with that.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 04:48:28 PM »

I hate your threads so much

gtfo mug.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 04:49:15 PM »

lol. meh fuck you all then.

its quite a regular thing and something a guy i stake asked me about today.

#retiringfrompha
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »

Id call WAY tighter than I'd shove in his spot...

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maybe wider in specific situations
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 05:05:32 PM »

i spoke to a 600nl reg who said people were starting to call with 109s.

We discussed it and we came to conclusion his range would be 22-77 alot and some Ax hands

#outofretirement
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 05:13:40 PM »

Something just not right about this. I can't imagine why this spot is a regular thing at all? Why is the reg just jamming? Optimal GTO strategy for 4bf/4bc will be way more profitable than GTO strategy of just 4b shoving.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 05:16:03 PM »

I've seen it quite often at 100-200nl too, usually from bad regs that have been fed up of good regs 3b/4b basically woning them too much and just jamming pairs with the "i know you are FOS I have a pair and willing to go all in but i dont want to 4bcall!"

BVB I've done it a few times and when I didn a coaching session with Alex Martin he said it was actually good.

#confirmedbadreg!
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 05:17:17 PM »

I don't think this happens very often at all bvb.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 05:18:23 PM »

Something just not right about this. I can't imagine why this spot is a regular thing at all? Why is the reg just jamming? Optimal GTO strategy for 4bf/4bc will be way more profitable than GTO strategy of just 4b shoving.

Reg getting owned up in 3b/4b wars, reg gets bored, reg makes adjustments, adjustments dont work so reg starts 4b jamming.

Basically the story lol.

(you be surprised how many times said reg has done this)
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 05:22:18 PM »

doesnt matter so much if its bvb or c/o vs btn imo, but ive seen it alot more at bvb than c/o vs btn, I've done it q a bit at bvb but never at c/o vs btn afair.
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