Aces early on in $55f

[Ant040689]

PokerStars Game #69473753116: Tournament #544010681, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2011/10/24 22:41:12 WET [2011/10/24 17:41:12 ET]
Table '544010681 20' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ballallday12 (4934 in chips)
Seat 2: sakazu (3115 in chips)
Seat 3: maddogmoz (2453 in chips)
Seat 4: Tyren0 (1388 in chips)
Seat 5: henrique83 (3535 in chips)
Seat 6: aJarov (2852 in chips)
Seat 7: DanielPT (2760 in chips)
Seat 8: anup returns (2910 in chips)
Seat 9: Takezo1980 (2588 in chips)
henrique83: posts small blind 25
aJarov: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to anup returns [As ]
DanielPT: folds
anup returns: raises 75 to 125
Takezo1980: folds
ballallday12: folds
sakazu: folds
maddogmoz: calls 125
Tyren0: folds
henrique83: folds
aJarov: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
anup returns: bets 150
maddogmoz: calls 150
*** TURN *** [ ] []
anup returns: checks
maddogmoz: bets 150
anup returns: calls 150
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
anup returns: checks
maddogmoz: bets 925
anup returns: calls 925
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maddogmoz: shows [ ] (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
anup returns: mucks hand
maddogmoz collected 2775 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2775 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: ballallday12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sakazu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: maddogmoz showed [ ] and won (2775) with a full house, Sixes full of Kings
Seat 4: Tyren0 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: henrique83 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: aJarov (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: DanielPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: anup returns mucked [As ]
Seat 9: Takezo1980 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Played well?

[StuartHopkin]

Yep

[GreekStein]

Gonna disagree with the childrens education furniture mogul who champions ireland's finest drink Mr Stuart Bopkins.

3x it pre Ant. This is pre antes.

I think betting turn and then bet/folding river is better than your line.

[action man]

Gonna disagree with the childrens education furniture mogul who champions ireland's finest drink Mr Stuart Bopkins.

3x it pre Ant. This is pre antes.

I think betting turn and then bet/folding river is better than your line.

think beting turn then bet folding river is slightly better, but i disagree with the 3x pre antes party, i think its important to keep pots pretty small, and people peel much wider to 2x than 3x in the early levels.

[cambridgealex]

The earlier streets are at least debatable, the river is a clear fold.

[Ant040689]

The earlier streets are at least debatable, the river is a clear fold.

I agree, because the bet is quite big on the river and so early on i doubt anyone is going to bluff at that size. However, the way i played it i was eyeing up the villain to put in a river bluff, as i thought that was the way i was going to maximise the value of my hand.

[NigDawG]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

[Ant040689]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

[cambridgealex]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

How is this true? You're not likely to take a bet / check / bet line as a bluff. If you were bluffing the king is definitely a card you'd barrel.

I can see how you've "set villain up for a river bluff" but now he's bet this size, I think you have to reevaluate and fold.

[GreekStein]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

lol wat

[Ant040689]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

lol wat

I don't know Cos, i really don't.

I'm sigh changing my game up completely because there are clearly massive leaks!

Anyone fancy backing me?

[SuuPRlim]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

I think this is a year or two out of date. your range has more air in it betting the turn than chk calling it, I think so early like this keeping it kinda simple is better, you are right you're unlikely to get 3 streets from this hand but betting flop, betting turn and betting and him folding the river is > bet/chk/bet imo as you rep a hand with some value when you chk/call the turn and bet/chk/bet lines are usually interpretted as Cbet conected flop/pot control/thin(ish) value bet.

I also agree with Alex that as played the river is a fold.

[Ant040689]

don't see how checking turn can be > betting

If he checked turn behind me, the likelihood of him calling a bet out on the river is more likely with weaker holdings.

I think this is a year or two out of date. your range has more air in it betting the turn than chk calling it, I think so early like this keeping it kinda simple is better, you are right you're unlikely to get 3 streets from this hand but betting flop, betting turn and betting and him folding the river is > bet/chk/bet imo as you rep a hand with some value when you chk/call the turn and bet/chk/bet lines are usually interpretted as Cbet conected flop/pot control/thin(ish) value bet.

I also agree with Alex that as played the river is a fold.

Great summation. You are also correct about me being two years in the past as i haven't put much effort into changing my game, but that is happening now. Need to be much more aware of how the oppo views my plays from start to finish rather than analysing on a street by street basis which i often get in the habit of doing because, when multi-tabling i can lose track of how the earlier streets played out.

[SuuPRlim]

The earlier streets are at least debatable, the river is a clear fold.

I agree, because the bet is quite big on the river and so early on i doubt anyone is going to bluff at that size. However, the way i played it i was eyeing up the villain to put in a river bluff, as i thought that was the way i was going to maximise the value of my hand.

what is he trying to make you fold, this is theoretically a great card for your hand so he bets 1.15x pot, just seems like your range is face up and he knows you wont fold it, he isnt betting AQ for value here either.

would be sick to Jam as a bluff lol, he should fold but he defo wont.

[celtic]

The earlier streets are at least debatable, the river is a clear fold.

I agree, because the bet is quite big on the river and so early on i doubt anyone is going to bluff at that size. However, the way i played it i was eyeing up the villain to put in a river bluff, as i thought that was the way i was going to maximise the value of my hand.

what is he trying to make you fold, this is theoretically a great card for your hand so he bets 1.15x pot, just seems like your range is face up and he knows you wont fold it, he isnt betting AQ for value here either.

would be sick to Jam as a bluff lol, he should fold but he defo wont.

Are you being hyperbolic here Dave?

Boooooom!