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« on: November 03, 2011, 09:06:08 AM »

8 handed 1/2 game

hero opens cut off  to £12 (playing £450), SB calls, BB calls (£700)

Flop (£36)     
SB Checks, BB Bets £35, hero Calls £35 , SB Folds

Turn (£106) 
BB checks, hero checks

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BB Bets £140, hero??


I have only been sat at the table for 4 orbits but have played with villian on several occasions before although i don't think he has any idea that we have ever played before. The table is pretty deep and incredibly soft in most spots. Villian is a pretty arrogant guy who will definately have thought that he has a massive edge on this table. Basically 4 of the 8 seats were complete calling stations. I am unsure as to how villian views me and up to this point I have been pretty un-active
 

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 09:40:31 AM »

call.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 10:36:28 AM »

Why check the turn?

We have nut best with a flush draw out there and surely we want villain to pay for that last card?
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 10:45:17 AM »

Bet turn.

As played call river and expect to see an airball.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 11:08:17 AM »

yeh wtf is with checking the turn, bet turn, shove river. most of his leading range if not all will continue on the turn.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 11:25:34 AM »

Seriously incase you missed it bet the turn
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 11:28:08 AM »

Yeh bet turn, call now.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 01:19:42 PM »

I think every street is misplayed to be perfectly frank. Don't like 6xing it pre, £7-£9 is plenty. Raise the flop. You have ridic equity against any hand and this equity will be halved on 3/4 turn cards so try and get as much money in now.

As said before bet turn. I'd bet tempted to shove river, he can't ever have QQ or KK I'd imagine so were never losing really.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 02:28:59 PM »

I think every street is misplayed to be perfectly frank. Don't like 6xing it pre, £7-£9 is plenty. Raise the flop. You have ridic equity against any hand and this equity will be halved on 3/4 turn cards so try and get as much money in now.

As said before bet turn. I'd bet tempted to shove river, he can't ever have QQ or KK I'd imagine so were never losing really.

He can have 66, but that seems the only possible hand we're behind to. What does he call us with on the river if we shove though? 66, or KK/QQ if we're wrong about him 'never having them',  and then maybe, every one's favourite, J9 suited and blue.
We only beat one of those.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 02:38:03 PM »

I think every street is misplayed to be perfectly frank. Don't like 6xing it pre, £7-£9 is plenty. Raise the flop. You have ridic equity against any hand and this equity will be halved on 3/4 turn cards so try and get as much money in now.

As said before bet turn. I'd bet tempted to shove river, he can't ever have QQ or KK I'd imagine so were never losing really.

hmmm... I was just about to ask why we're turning the nut no pair into a bluff by shoving river. Somehow didn't register that AKQJT makes a straight....must be a while since I've had one Cheesy

same question: why are we turning the nut straight into a bluff?

can call with KK/QQ/66 (never has), some random 6 he wanted to bet flop to make you fold or (which is part of your range imo given betsizing) but slows on turn and rivers 'gin' but that's not a lot.



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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 02:46:14 PM »

every one's favourite, J9 suited and blue.
Jd9d is not in his range. DUCY?
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 02:46:28 PM »

I think every street is misplayed to be perfectly frank. Don't like 6xing it pre, £7-£9 is plenty. Raise the flop. You have ridic equity against any hand and this equity will be halved on 3/4 turn cards so try and get as much money in now.

As said before bet turn. I'd bet tempted to shove river, he can't ever have QQ or KK I'd imagine so were never losing really.

hmmm... I was just about to ask why we're turning the nut no pair into a bluff by shoving river. Somehow didn't register that AKQJT makes a straight....must be a while since I've had one Cheesy

same question: why are we turning the nut straight into a bluff?

can call with KK/QQ/66 (never has), some random 6 he wanted to bet flop to make you fold or (which is part of your range imo given betsizing) but slows on turn and rivers 'gin' but that's not a lot.


6x the main target yeh and j9 of course. even if he doesnt call us very often its still a shove imo cos its just soooo unlikely we're beat.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 03:06:36 PM »

i think j9 is his most likely holding given the action.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 04:04:43 PM »

i think j9 is his most likely holding given the action.

how often does he turn QT into a bluff/bet KT for value?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 06:29:50 PM »

every one's favourite, J9 suited and blue.
Jd9d is not in his range. DUCY?

Lol, yes

Loathe the ducy abbreviation though. So patronising
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