KK £1/2 Flop decision in 3b pot

[Pinchop73]

Playing £1/2. I'm playing £500odd, have everybody at the table covered.

Straddled pot. Folds round to the c/o, who makes it £12, playing £330. Button, a rock pretty much, flats. Rarely puts chips in a pot.

I'm in the sb with  . I 3b to £39. c/o calls. Button folds.

Flop (£85) 

I bet £45. Villain raises to £95.

Hero???

[Pinchop73]

Hero has played many hours with Villain. A very unpredictable player. His calling range pre is pretty much any two. The guy likes a gamble. Plays very well post flop imo.

But, in this spot, I'd say his pre calling range would be stronger than normal, as he obv picked up on the fact that I've 3b the tightest player on the table oop.

[boldie]

Get it in one way or the other. He could have overs JJ/QQ and AQ diamonte or worse depending on his image of you. OBv he could also have a hand that beats us but I reckon there are plenty hands he could have that we beat.

[Matt.NFFC.]

Prolly got 10 J suited.......shove

[outragous76]

If we aren't folding, what's people thoughts on peeling here to crush his equity on his draws?

Does peoples opinion change if we are in position?

[boldie]

If we aren't folding, what's people thoughts on peeling here to crush his equity on his draws?

Does peoples opinion change if we are in position?

Don't mind peeling here but think any diamond on the turn could kill the action which is why I'd prefer to get it in now.

[SuuPRlim]

yuck, its a horrible raise theoretically and a sick vacuum play from him, really chaep bluff and a really mean value bet, I honestly don't REALLY know what is best but what i am sure off is he will be going all in on the turn, so whatever we do don't call flop and fold turn, I cant see him chcking his semi-blluffs back OTT (even though it would be a pretty cool move)

I dont see a ton of merit to peeling flop here, mainly because he's IP and the stuff he jams the turn for "semi-bluffs" and "value" he will still go with OTF, unlikely to be totally airballing here and if he somehow raises and folds the then we'll defo take that I dont see us flatting the flop "keeps weaker hands in" very much at all. I think Jam or Fold for me and really don't know which is best without more info.

if he "likes a gamble" as you say then he should in theory be raising all his draws here, and flatting an 8 some % so on that basis with no further info I would go all in, but some very small details about how you expect him to play these hands

 

 

 

 

could easily convince me its a fold

[Pinchop73]

He semi bluffs ANY draw. He is also VERY capable of this bet size with TOTAL air, because he knows that with £190 behind it puts me to a decision of jamming or folding a big potion of my stack.

[cambridgealex]

Shove

[mulhuzz]

first, do a cartwheel. then shove.

this is a metabluff based on the fact that V will think our cartwheel range is superstrong like 88 or 99 and fold all his draws.

[SuuPRlim]

He semi bluffs ANY draw.

well a pretty easy jam then

[Pinchop73]

Ok, cheers guys.

[SKYPOKESHER]

jam it in his eye

[lolwutwasthat]

You should 3bet bigger to around the 45-50 region being OOP but as played cbet is fine but i prefer to flat the 95 and go from there. Villians range really depends on how good he is and how he perceives you, if you've never been out of line or anything then I dont suspect a bluff raise from this guy. But the other side is, if you have been out of line slightly then he would be flatting all value hands expecting you to barrel him off. And if you have been uberly out of line then he would most likely do this with value hands hoping you bluff shove flop.

TBF i suspect this to be a bluff raise more than anything, so I'd rather flat repping a marginal hand that cant withstand heat but doesnt want to fold to a min raise.
Also if hes decent I dont really think he should be raising bare FDs or even str8 FD to this sizing as he should look to take the pot down vs hands that currently have him beat. But I think this is a good play with the NFD or Pair+FD as it allows you to shove worse FDs or just overs that he has extreme equity against.

[SuuPRlim]

TBF i suspect this to be a bluff raise more than anything, so I'd rather flat repping a marginal hand that cant withstand heat but doesnt want to fold to a min raise.

is this not pretty much the hand we have?