Pretty Sick 10.20 hand.

[SuuPRlim]

Bit of an interesting spot here..


$10/$20 NL (7handed)

Massive fish limps UTG2 playing ~$4k

I ISO   to $100 ($10k). Very good young reg calls next to act - MP ($4.5k) Another good reg peels the SB ($6k) the fish calls.

Flop ($420)    

SB chks, Fish chks, I bet $240. MP (the good young reg) calls, the SB calls, fish folds.

Turn ($1,140)

SB checks, I check, MP bets $720. SB tanks for ~2mins and folds. I call.

River ($2,580)

I check, MP goes all in for $3,400.

waddddyathink.


SB is very solid, speshly OOP. The MP reg is aggressive but very shrewd, picks and times things pretty well in general. The fish in question is a super loose-passive fish.

*edit - the table was playing pretty solid, everyone just looking to get into pots with one of the three fish, two of which were sat our for this hand, hence 7 handed.

[Patonius2000]

I don't see any reason why he can't have a worse ten here so I would call. I like your turn play also.

[mondatoo]

I don't see any reason why he can't have a worse ten here so I would call. I like your turn play also.

Plus what are we losing too ? AA, AT maybe T6s, T6s is unlikely as well, I can't find the fold button here.

[pleno1]

wow. snappity and dont think its close at all.

he can think we have Ax and get us to fold (BLUFF)

he can think we have Ax and wont fold to a shove, so jams a worse 10 (VALUE)

[SuuPRlim]

is everyone not paying attention to the relevance of the SB in this hand

[TommyD]

is everyone not paying attention to the relevance of the SB in this hand

I take it in hand you're pretty sure the SB folded a weak ten on the turn?

[mondatoo]

is everyone not paying attention to the relevance of the SB in this hand

I take it in hand you're pretty sure the SB folded a weak ten on the turn?

I think it's more likely SB has AJ-AK which are obv blockers to hands we lose too.

I don't think it's as clear cut as what Pads is sayn but I'm not folding here.

[pleno1]

yeh the good reg can flat aces against the whale, but if he has aces and we check turn then he probably thinks kings is close to the top of our range and jamming would be abit of a mistake then right?

i actually love making hero folds, but this really doesnt seem like a spot i'd consider folding.

also i like timing tells on live hands, how long it too you to do X, how long it took him to do Y.

[SuuPRlim]

is everyone not paying attention to the relevance of the SB in this hand

I take it in hand you're pretty sure the SB folded a weak ten on the turn?

Yh i figure AK/AQ to be almost 100% likely, pretty sure he'd 3bet neither hand ever and would peel a few Tx's T8s-KT prolly, these are the only hands I can imagine him over calling the flop with, so when our villain bombs the turn he is betting into very strong ranges - cos after the flop overcall I'm going to shut it off with a huge amount of my range, so once I've now called the turn I have a really really strong range as well, and he still wants to go ahead and wager three thousands and four hundreds of his $'s

[SuuPRlim]

yeh the good reg can flat aces against the whale, but if he has aces and we check turn then he probably thinks kings is close to the top of our range and jamming would be abit of a mistake then right?

I think once we chk call the turn AK is the BOTTOM of our range

[pleno1]

yeh the good reg can flat aces against the whale, but if he has aces and we check turn then he probably thinks kings is close to the top of our range and jamming would be abit of a mistake then right?

I think once we chk call the turn AK is the BOTTOM of our range

why? if hes good then he will expect us to cbet q alot and can float us even if his attention was originally to play vs the fish, can have jqhh, kqhh, kjhh etc. Also can have suited aces that he bets for value when we check turn.

[pleno1]

like are we really c/f with AQ here?

get dubai itt, he'll call.


i do disagree wit my kings being top of our range comment though.

[pleno1]

FWIW river may be close with AK but k10 is def a snap here, we have the nut non full house and he's a very good very young reg.

btw, i think you switcharood this and you're the young reg.

[Mitch]

I'm never folding here.

Can so easily be v.betting worse, and turning hands into bluffs, floating etc..

[paulhouk03]

pretty sick hand that i scooped 5 fig pot?