Premier League Relegation Season 2011/2012

[mulhuzz]

some body has put up 4 -1 on betfair for QPR to be relegated

Ive taken a chunk...still a bit left

http://sports.betfair.com/?rfr=63&mi=103211258&ex=1#

Massive Price

that's quite a horrific bet.

so easy for people to lock in some profit there like.

[FUN4FRASER]

Still think there is value on these two to be relegated especially considering the fixtures they have coming up....

Sunderland   6-1

QPR           9-2

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

[FUN4FRASER]

QPR havent the easiest next 4 matches so I expect the price to reduce by the new year

Man Utd   home
Sunderland   Home
Swansea   Away
Arsenal     Away

I think the 9 -2 to be relegated is still  too big

[FUN4FRASER]

Just thought Id do a QPR update for the new year .

Just for the record.... QPRs Last 11 premier league games   Won 1 , Drawn 2 , Lost 8 .


Position                  P  GD  Points
15     West Brom   20  -9     22
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16      Wolves        20 -14    17
17      QPR            20 -16    17
18      Bolton         20 -18    16
19      Wigan         20 -23    15
20      Blackburn    20 -14    14
 
Little 5 point gap developing now between the bottom 5 and West Brom in  in 6th .

Given their current form , league positon , goal difference ,fixtures remaining ,squad strength AND THEY FACT THEY HAVE JUST SACKED NEIL WARNOCK QPR still available at 2 -1 with Corals ,Boyles or Betfair to be relegated still looks like tremendous value .

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

[Josedinho]

Thoughts on Warnock sacking? One of the reasons I was never that worried about Sunderland was that I thought they would improve with a better manager. If they were in real trouble they'd get money for a striker but they have some good players.
Hughes seems to be the one mentioned as replacement for Warnock. Really not a fan of his at the moment but could see why somebody would prefer him to Colin in the prem.

[Skgv]

Thoughts on Warnock sacking? One of the reasons I was never that worried about Sunderland was that I thought they would improve with a better manager. If they were in real trouble they'd get money for a striker but they have some good players.
Hughes seems to be the one mentioned as replacement for Warnock. Really not a fan of his at the moment but could see why somebody would prefer him to Colin in the prem.

Think the Owner made a bold move an probaly will garantee they stay up now if Hughes comes in with the fresh Manager impertous that follows! Although Martin O Neil affect hard or  near impossible if Hughes gets the job i think Frasers tip for relegation a massive no no now an i think from his point of view he would of been gutted about this news of Warnocks sacking.

[Horneris]

ok you have a chance now.

Seems pretty suicidal from the board, hes a great manager and as I've said, great games coming up.

PANIC PLAY.

[redarmi]

ok you have a chance now.

Seems pretty suicidal from the board, hes a great manager and as I've said, great games coming up.

PANIC PLAY.

Definitely this.  Think they go down now.

[Josedinho]

Faurlin out for the season is the bigger blow imo

[Skgv]

Neil Warnock is a great manager ! ( & a good Sheffield lad too ) ....He guided QPR to the premiership on a shoe string budget.

When they get there, he still has had little money to spend ......allowed only free transfers ,loan signings and forced into buying a couple of players nobody else wants (Barton & Wright Philips) He has had to make do with no recognised  premiership strikers (Mackie,Boothroyd,Helguson,Smith all ex championship) He has the temperamental Taarbaat and the inconsistent Wright philips and the manic Barton in Midfield and has had to sign The dodgiest left back in the country (Traore). Added to that Sheff utd old boys Derry and Kenny to plug the defence and goal.

So what does the fickle QPR board do ?  Sack him !  What do they expect ? The management are clueless idiots and this is the very reason I think QPR will go down !!

If they manage to attract a decent manager and If they give him some cash to spend I think the wounds are already way too deep, and as a consequence  will not be able to attract any decent players to a sinking ship

Far from me being disappointed ...I actually think Neil Warnock has been treated terribly and his sacking will be the final nail in the coffin , and expose QPR  for what they are ...A badly run club !

Its glaringly obvious to me QPR will be relegated and advise people to take the 2-1 still available

Good Luck to Neil

Misjudgement from me perhaps but i obv want them to go down if you have backed them just you fancied them to go down before Neil was sacked so you obvioulsy felt he wasnt the right man with the right tools to keep them up! So now with that being rectified im surprised that everyone thinks that a new manager with possibly new faces coming in with money to spend will have a worst run if results they have already had recently?

[Skgv]

Neil Warnock is a great manager ! ( & a good Sheffield lad too ) ....He guided QPR to the premiership on a shoe string budget.

When they get there, he still has had little money to spend ......allowed only free transfers ,loan signings and forced into buying a couple of players nobody else wants (Barton & Wright Philips) He has had to make do with no recognised  premiership strikers (Mackie,Boothroyd,Helguson,Smith all ex championship) He has the temperamental Taarbaat and the inconsistent Wright philips and the manic Barton in Midfield and has had to sign The dodgiest left back in the country (Traore). Added to that Sheff utd old boys Derry and Kenny to plug the defence and goal.

So what does the fickle QPR board do ?  Sack him !  What do they expect ? The management are clueless idiots and this is the very reason I think QPR will go down !!

If they manage to attract a decent manager and If they give him some cash to spend I think the wounds are already way too deep, and as a consequence  will not be able to attract any decent players to a sinking ship

Far from me being disappointed ...I actually think Neil Warnock has been treated terribly and his sacking will be the final nail in the coffin , and expose QPR  for what they are ...A badly run club !

Its glaringly obvious to me QPR will be relegated and advise people to take the 2-1 still available

Good Luck to Neil

Misjudgement from me perhaps but i obv want them to go down if you have backed them just you fancied them to go down before Neil was sacked so you obvioulsy felt he wasnt the right man with the right tools to keep them up! So now with that being rectified im surprised that everyone thinks that a new manager with possibly new faces coming in with money to spend will have a worst run if results they have already had recently?

Upset you never responded to my last post ! But i guess you having a chuckle to yourself after todays result!

[FUN4FRASER]

Neil Warnock is a great manager ! ( & a good Sheffield lad too ) ....He guided QPR to the premiership on a shoe string budget.

When they get there, he still has had little money to spend ......allowed only free transfers ,loan signings and forced into buying a couple of players nobody else wants (Barton & Wright Philips) He has had to make do with no recognised  premiership strikers (Mackie,Boothroyd,Helguson,Smith all ex championship) He has the temperamental Taarbaat and the inconsistent Wright philips and the manic Barton in Midfield and has had to sign The dodgiest left back in the country (Traore). Added to that Sheff utd old boys Derry and Kenny to plug the defence and goal.

So what does the fickle QPR board do ?  Sack him !  What do they expect ? The management are clueless idiots and this is the very reason I think QPR will go down !!

If they manage to attract a decent manager and If they give him some cash to spend I think the wounds are already way too deep, and as a consequence  will not be able to attract any decent players to a sinking ship

Far from me being disappointed ...I actually think Neil Warnock has been treated terribly and his sacking will be the final nail in the coffin , and expose QPR  for what they are ...A badly run club !

Its glaringly obvious to me QPR will be relegated and advise people to take the 2-1 still available

Good Luck to Neil

Misjudgement from me perhaps but i obv want them to go down if you have backed them just you fancied them to go down before Neil was sacked so you obvioulsy felt he wasnt the right man with the right tools to keep them up! So now with that being rectified im surprised that everyone thinks that a new manager with possibly new faces coming in with money to spend will have a worst run if results they have already had recently?

Upset you never responded to my last post ! But i guess you having a chuckle to yourself after todays result!

Been on Hols with the kids and girlfriend so apologies for not replying.

I did fancy QPR to go down with Neil Warnock as manager..Ive used the analogy he was a good captain on a sinking ship . Right man but wrong club and I feel Mark Hughes is going to face the same problems , although he will attract some people , his signings are likely to be second choice players not wanted by other premiership clubs. QPR currently have a bunch of average players, a home capacity of 18,000,  are languishing  3rd from bottom and in there last 12 games they have  won  1 , drawn 2, lost 9  .  I dont see too many reasons why top notch players would go there, which just goes to re enforce my opinion they are certainties to go down !

[adnmdv]

Can I get a lay @ 1.01 please?

[FUN4FRASER]

Some Facts and Opinions on QPR & The relegation candidates.

Bottom of The Table...

17 Aston Villa            25 3 4 6 14 17 3 6 3 15 17 -5     28
16 QPR                   25 2 4 6 13 20 3 2 8 14 24 -17      21
17 Blackburn            25 4 0 9 19 26 1 6 5 18 30 -19     21
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18 Wolverhampton  25 3 2 8 17 28 2 4 6 11 21 -21      21
19 Bolton                 25 2 2 9 15 27 4 0 8 14 24 -22     20
20 Wigan                 25 1 5 6 11 22 3 2 8 12 28 -27     19

 
There are now 13 games left for each team this Season . QPR in their last 13 Premiership games have drawn 3, Lost 9 and won just 1 game which was home to Wigan.

There is now a 7 point gap between the bottom 5 clubs (Blackburn,Bolton ,Wigan Wolves and QPR ) to Villa in 6th from bottom...so its highly likely that 3 of those 5 teams will go down.

QPRs next 3 matches are seemingly the easier fixtures ,thats if you can call Fulham & Everton at home & Bolton away easy , however Cisse is banned for 2 of these . After that they have a very difficult 10 game run through until the end of the season , in which they face all the top teams and play none of the bottom 6 . Compare that to the other teams at the bottom and they appear to have the hardest remaining fixtures.

They have a great manager in Mark Hughes, and " when " in the mood good players in Zamora ,Cisse ,Barton and Taarabat , but they also have plenty of average ,non premier league standard players too. They lack cohesion and their heads seem to drop too easily when the chips are down. I appreciate the other 4 teams at the bottom are" not much better", but they seem to have a lot more fight & spirit in them, so when you scrutinise & see how difficult the remaining fixtures are for QPR "not much better" will  be enough to banish them to the championship.

For these reasons ....plus their terrible defence, poor form ,run in fixtures, and the very fact it appears to be 3 teams from 5 that will go down I cant see QPR staying up so ....
                                                
                                   The 6-4 still on offer  to be relegated still  seems very big .

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

 Remaining Fixtures

 Sat 25th 15:00 Barclays Prem  QPR  vs  Fulham    
 Sat 3rd 15:00 Barclays Prem   QPR  vs  Everton    
 Sat 10th 12:45 Barclays Prem  Bolton  vs  QPR    
 Sat 17th 15:00 Barclays Prem  QPR  vs  Liverpool    
 Sat 24th 15:00 Barclays Prem  Sunderland  vs  QPR    
 Sat 31st 15:00 Barclays Prem  QPR  vs  Arsenal    
 Sat 7th 15:00 Barclays Prem   Man Utd  vs  QPR    
 Mon 9th 15:00 Barclays Prem  QPR  vs  Swansea    
 Sat 14th 15:00 Barclays Prem  West Brom  vs  QPR    
 Sat 21st 15:00 Barclays Prem  QPR  vs  Tottenham    
 Sat 28th 15:00 Barclays Prem  Chelsea  vs  QPR    
 Sat 5th 15:00 Barclays Prem    QPR  vs  Stoke City    
 Sun 13th 15:00 Barclays Prem  Man City  vs  QPR  

[mondatoo]

Those next three games are huge.