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« on: November 12, 2011, 10:32:47 PM »

Playing local 1/2 game. Info on Villain is pretty tight passive player, playing around £200. Hero playing around £250, and we are 4 handed.

Hero on the button with  and open to £7 as im opening 90% of hands on button. Get flatted by SB, BB and the Villian who has limp called the cut off.

Flop:  three diamonds two spades wiiiii

Checks to villain who leads for £15 into £28. I dwell then flat, SB and BB both pass.

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Villain snap leads £40 , find this really weird how ive opened pre, called the flop and he then bets £40 into £58. Is an extremely unusual line for him to take having played with him on many occasions! I call.

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Villain dwells for a minute or so and checks. Hero is playing around £120 behind with the pot now being around £140. Advice on the best river lines please??
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 10:52:14 PM »

move the slider to the end and click the bet btn imo

unless you have some sort of hero read? i would prolly have raised the flop smallish, id be wieghting him hevily towards    etc and he may well find a fold on the river now, but most people cant fold those hands to a small flop raise.

I think that most players in these games will check a house or a 3 way way more often than theyd check

Unless you have some sort of hero live read?
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 11:33:12 PM »

No particular hero read...But felt he had a hand in that range too Dave. 66-99 and know personally that a jam on river is never been called. And for the 1 time that he does have 88/22 A5 etc i dont think a jam is profitable knowing the player as he is more than capable or check trapping the river as im likely to bluff the river. This aside he still wont call me with the mid pairs if he thinks i am bluffing. Hes not a good player as you can probably work out lol
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 12:03:48 AM »

Agree with Dave, again sigh.

He has small/medium pairs all the time. Play your hand accordingly depending on what you'll think he'll do with those hands.

Could bet river really small as played.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 12:12:00 AM »

Yeh agreed im 90% sure he has small-medium pairs.. but stack sizing was awkward , would be hard to bet £40-£50 when he has £100 left...
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 02:17:07 AM »

I was thinking more like 25, which surely he calls 100% of the time whereas if you shove he probably folds >75% of the time so is less profitable.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 02:27:52 AM »

i always take the approach of "you need a REASON to bet small" like if he calls a jam 20% of the time and £40 50% of the time then its a much better play to jam.

If you think he's 100% NOT going to call a jam then size down as you think, I think this is great reason for raising the flop or jamming the turn. I hope he doesn't have 88 lol

Agree with Dave, again sigh.

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 05:55:57 AM »

std Jam.

Wouldn't expect him to check any hands that have you beat here really with less than PSB's behind.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 08:39:35 AM »

Don't raise pre, jam now
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 11:25:29 AM »

I was thinking more like 25, which surely he calls 100% of the time whereas if you shove he probably folds >75% of the time so is less profitable.

In this specific scenario its more profitable to jam, if thats what you meant?
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 12:22:55 PM »

I was thinking more like 25, which surely he calls 100% of the time whereas if you shove he probably folds >75% of the time so is less profitable.

This, though perhaps bump it up to 35/40 unless the opponent's super scared.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 02:45:53 PM »

Don't raise pre, jam now

Why no raise pre?

Seems super standard
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 03:13:32 PM »

Stylistic preference I guess, but 4 handed I wouldn't expect to get heads up to the flop very often, especially when the blinds are getting 2 and 2.5 to 1 respectively to flick in.

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 11:55:13 AM »

Stylistic preference I guess, but 4 handed I wouldn't expect to get heads up to the flop very often, especially when the blinds are getting 2 and 2.5 to 1 respectively to flick in.



but we have spadesssssss Wink

think raising pre is fine, but our plan is to get all the monies when we flop like this, so raise flop small as standard and as played slide it in.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 06:01:17 AM »

as played bet river for £45ish- tank make it 37 on the flop tho imo
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