Very interesting hand IMHOOFC

[pleno1]

Hi, will post the link as dont have the converter etc.

http://weaktight.com/4103844

Guy has got increasingly aggresive since hero got deep, villain likes to get to showdwon and hero has a really bad image.

Thoughts?

Flop? Should we be betting this deep vs 3bet?

Turn line? What we feeling about c/f, c/c ?

River?

If we are villian what should we be checking behind? What should we be bluffing? WHat should we be valuing?

[Solaris]

Think as played it's fine. I might be check/folding the flop, especially as villain is described as being very aggro now we're deep. I check the river nearly always. It's a ridiculously thin spot to be betting for value. The only hand that might call a river bet is the hand he has as we have the .

Given that you have a bad image, I'm checking the river back as the villain. Don't need to turn my hand into a bluff and don't expect to be called by worse.

[Bully87]

CBetting with nothing and binking turn vs passive showdown player, what a life!

As played for me, I'd be CBetting the majority of the time on that board once I've 4b pre, once he calls I'd shut down unless you bink the turn, Villain has played his hand way to passively post flop.

Possibly missed a bet on river? I don't hate a check but if he's passive and bombs river and I've got TPTK I'd do a little sick and probably fold, lucky villain has played his hand like a wuss and you scoop it.

River Solaris, if he bets, c/c or c/f?

[zerofive]

A lot of players at the low mid stakes tend to think they've being levelled loads and end up confusing themselves when they start playing too aggressively. Presuming villain doesn't have a history/stats of this level of aggression during normal play? Couple this with your reads/image, I'd have a hard time not shoving for value on the river. I know it doesn't look like we're beating much, but with the AKQ of clubs dead, he rarely shows up with a flush. We're worried about QQ/JJ/KQ s. Nothing misses so check/call river seems like a waste. He has what it looks like he has.

With your image as bad as you say it is, I'm not check/folding turn. We could check call to make our hand look like the bare ace of clubs, then check call river when AQ seems like a decent value bet spot versus your one-barrel range.

Too thin?

[Solaris]

Only river bet we can make is a shove Bully, surely? We have 160 or so back with the pot being 245.

I c/f the river. I can't see what holdings he has that bet the river that we beat?

[Bully87]

Only river bet we can make is a shove Bully, surely? We have 160 or so back with the pot being 245.

I c/f the river. I can't see what holdings he has that bet the river that we beat?

Would have been my choice too if he bet, TPTK is so minging most of the time, espesh vs passive players. HEM stats would help too, granted you mentioned he's got more aggro now your deeper but his general habits depending on sample size will probably be the same.

[pleno1]

A lot of players at the low mid stakes tend to think they've being levelled loads and end up confusing themselves when they start playing too aggressively. Presuming villain doesn't have a history/stats of this level of aggression during normal play? Couple this with your reads/image, I'd have a hard time not shoving for value on the river. I know it doesn't look like we're beating much, but with the AKQ of clubs dead, he rarely shows up with a flush. We're worried about QQ/JJ/KQ s. Nothing misses so check/call river seems like a waste. He has what it looks like he has.

With your image as bad as you say it is, I'm not check/folding turn. We could check call to make our hand look like the bare ace of clubs, then check call river when AQ seems like a decent value bet spot versus your one-barrel range.

Too thin?

shoving river as value would be ridic imo, with AK. we are 300bbs deep at start of play guys.

[zerofive]

Stats would be useful. You've described him as terrible and he thinks you're worse.

[pleno1]

You've described him as terrible

huh where?

dont think stats are super important here especially fold to 4bet etc. as we are deep.

[SuuPRlim]

im pretty sure theoretically vs someone decent its a c/f >> a bet or a jam

I assume we were c/f yh?

[Ragz]

Villain is aggressive but likes to get to showdown? Kind of contradicting analysis of villain there so it's hard to judge the best play. If he's aggressive with bluff potential full stop then I like c/c turn c/c river. If he prefers to get to showdown asap then I think your line is fine.

[SuuPRlim]

c/c the river is far ad away the worst of the options imo

[DMorgan]

Seems pretty standard to this point, now c/f