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edgascoigne
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Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 23, 2011, 09:24:44 PM »
We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date.
Utg+1 opens to 15
A couple of seats along with
we:
A) Fold
B) Call
C) Raise
We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75
Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs)
Checks to us and we:
A) Check
B) Bet 35
C) Bet 51
We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177.
Turn comes the
which is a second heart.
Villain checks, we:
A) Check
B) Bet 95
C) All in for c200
We check. River is the
.
Villain bets 125.
We??
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 23, 2011, 09:58:51 PM »
Played it fine, too strong of a hand to 3b and no reason to 3b an utg+1 raiser. Flop fine, maybe a little big but i see no problems with it.
Turn is ok, i think you'll still be in front so maybe it is a bet, but its hard to see what worse hands call and a 9x hand might bluff the river.
River is a call i think, i cant see how he has an ace and backdoor hearts/flopped straight are your only real concerns as all 2pair+ hands prob raise flop
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 23, 2011, 10:10:10 PM »
Quote from: edgascoigne on November 23, 2011, 09:24:44 PM
We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date.
Utg+1 opens to 15
A couple of seats along with
We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75
Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs)
Checks to us and We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177.
Turn comes the
which is a second heart.
Villain checks, We check. River is the
.
Villain bets 125.
We??
fyp
No point giving us options then just saying what happened lol, sb stack ?
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edgascoigne
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November 23, 2011, 10:14:53 PM »
Quote from: pokerfan on November 23, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: edgascoigne on November 23, 2011, 09:24:44 PM
We are playing c£270, no real hands of note to date.
Utg+1 opens to 15
A couple of seats along with
We peel, as do 3 others inc both blinds. Pot is £75
Flop comes: J T 8 r (no clubs)
Checks to us and We bet 51 and are called by just the SB. Pot is 177.
Turn comes the
which is a second heart.
Villain checks, We check. River is the
.
Villain bets 125.
We??
fyp
No point giving us options then just saying what happened lol, sb stack ?
Fair point, figured I would stick it all in one post rather than release street by street.
SB covers.
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 23, 2011, 10:46:28 PM »
as played fold.
I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet.
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 23, 2011, 11:42:25 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on November 23, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
as played fold.
I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet.
mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close?
I think I might even just fold pre readless, but as played I just try and get to showdown cheap, prolly have to fold this river.
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November 24, 2011, 04:42:59 AM »
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 23, 2011, 11:42:25 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on November 23, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
as played fold.
I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet.
mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close?
I think I might even just fold pre readless, but as played I just try and get to showdown cheap, prolly have to fold this river.
Backdoor flush draws are super important when you're deep.
Fold pre? Are u mental?
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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Quote from: cambridgealex on November 24, 2011, 04:42:59 AM
Backdoor flush draws are super important when you're deep.
Fold pre? Are u mental?
we're 90bb 'deep' tho? and my point was that 4% extra equity shouldn't really make you 'much more likely' to bet flops, right?
and yeah, against an unknown in a complete vacuum I might just fold pre. Anything that suggests that 3 other players will come along, or that utg+1 is opening semi-light will make me call ofc. I'm not saying fold is my standard, but from the info given I think fold a) has to be an option and b) isn't mental.
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November 24, 2011, 08:43:25 AM »
folding pre to a 5x raise 90bbs deep is definitely not out of the question
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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November 24, 2011, 08:55:07 AM »
If your folding pre with 90 bigs snap reload 1k more big blinds so you never have to fold such pretty hands pre again
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November 24, 2011, 09:11:55 AM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on November 24, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
If your folding pre with 90 bigs snap reload 1k more big blinds so you never have to fold such pretty hands pre again
ja, this is fine ofc.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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November 24, 2011, 09:13:37 AM »
Think folding pre with 90bbs is probably 'correct'.
But those cards are right next to each other and have the same shape in the corner.
As played I figured he's showing up with a 9 on the end a lot of the time assuming (correctly) I didn't like the ace...and called.
He had AJ, which figures.
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November 24, 2011, 09:30:25 AM »
Quote from: mulhuzz on November 23, 2011, 11:42:25 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on November 23, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
as played fold.
I'd chk the flop in a vacuum but betting is fine, if there is a club on the board im way more likely to bet.
mmmm, like that extra 4% makes it really close?
well basically, when spots are close like this we have to randomize our decision making somehow, as in we chk the flop a certain % and bet a certain %, so for me I always choose times with backdoor equity to take a more aggressive option
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Re: Play along: 1/3 at the Vic
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November 24, 2011, 09:32:11 AM »
Quote from: pleno1 on November 24, 2011, 08:43:25 AM
folding pre to a 5x raise 90bbs deep is definitely not out of the question
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November 24, 2011, 01:35:58 PM »
Don't fold pre, fold now though. He has AJ lol
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