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« on: November 29, 2011, 01:16:26 AM »

GAY ipoker HH so here is the hand

hero 299k
villain 600k

tourney is 6max and is 3500/7k

villain is unknown
 

folds to me in the CO open to 14k
Villain 3bet to 31k

hero calls 17k

flop Q26 1club

hero checks
villain bets 27k
hero calls 27k


turn Q26Ax

hero checks
villain bets 51k
hero calls 51k


river Q26AK

hero checks
villain shoves
hero?


at this point he shoves pot size jam effectively
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 01:19:55 AM »

we have no time bank and basically 20 seconds to decide
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 01:23:53 AM »

fwiw i hate peeling 3bets oop but i thought it was best in this spot
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 01:34:48 AM »

does my hand look too much like Qx to fold tho?
i mean how many Aces can we ever have? i could easily have QK though and I doubt he thinks i fold that, tricky
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 01:55:49 AM »

ya ur pretty capped and theres blockers everywhere to QQ+/AQ+ so id call, stars aligned a bit too much to fold i think.  what do you think of raising the flop? i think when you call you're generally pretty showdown bound but when we c/r we can perhaps induce a spazz and be more likely to stack qx etc

i think u played preflop the best
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 01:59:47 AM »

i would usually cib on flop in this spot for sure, but one relavent hand of history, i peeled an open with Qk otb he calls the sb and bb calls  4 handed to J23 flop checks to me otb i bet villain clicks/ and we jam he folds. I doubt he would spazz out on this hand after
that recent history.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 02:19:15 AM »

villian is otb yh?

i think folding pre is absurd.

play the same post, don't think folding river is really possible, esp giving its 1) iPoker and 2) its 2000 runner max comp, ppl go off there lids!

any previous history w villain?

his sizing is strong which annoys me
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 02:21:02 AM »

i would usually cib on flop in this spot for sure, but one relavent hand of history, i peeled an open with Qk otb he calls the sb and bb calls  4 handed to J23 flop checks to me otb i bet villain clicks/ and we jam he folds. I doubt he would spazz out on this hand after
that recent history.

FPS is another good reason not to fold river here
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 02:29:11 AM »

yh villion is OTB

we didnt know this at the time but villain is Brendoor
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 03:05:18 AM »

yh villion is OTB

we didnt know this at the time but villain is Brendoor

This changes dynamic of situation. Does he know its you? 
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 03:10:13 AM »

no he does not
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 03:16:30 AM »

hmm, agree with toby, his sizing is strong. But the fact its brendoor makes it more of a fold than a call (IMO). Especially if he see's u as a random "i poker fish" thats just gona call call call.

FWIW, i think this is a good hand to post and im sure all good mtt players will have different opinions on it
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 04:31:37 AM »

I would very very rarely fold pre here with these stack sizes and positions the guy would have to be tighter than RDCRSN and Young Supremacy ghosting Craig McCorkell. You dominate the vast majority of his 3 betting range so when you flop top pair its basically the nuts and can induce in a varitey of ways depending on the texture of the board. Being suited is key here (I would likely fold kq offsuit to some villains a lot) as you can flop loads of draws that you can semi bluff with eg. by check calling the flop and then check  shoving over a 2nd barrel with these stack sizes. You can even check call float the flop oop and jam over turn barrels when you turn equity as he is going to 3 barrel your cards when you turn top pair. An example of this would be a  t42 rainbow board with 1 club. On this board u can check call the flop and then check jam any 9, any jacl and  any club and check call down on any queen or king (please call every river though) .Rupert nailed it with the blockers line, it really lowers the number of combinations of value hands the villain can have. KQ here is essentially JJ (even though you will probably never flat JJ pre here) but I might fold the JJ on the river but have to calll the kq because of  the blockers to his possible combination of value hands factor.

Saying all that I don't think the river is too close really because lets assume your average online reg deep in a big 6 max comp is going to be decently aggressive and especially  in these positions (cutoff to button). Therefor they are  going to have so much air in their range preflop. He keeps all that air in his range by c betting q62 rainbow close to 100% of the time, he ALWAYS barrels the ace unless he has something (lol) so he gets to the river with close to 100% of his air still. A king rolls off on the river and he has a good stack to pot jam left..... there is no way that kq can be a fold agaisnt this range even though it 100% is just a bluff catcher against any1 with a brain. There are just 2 many bluffs to catch and you block too many combos of his value hands.

After you find out that villain is Brendoor you should probably go and kill yourself as he is less likely to have a hand here than the UK's latest online sensation Chris Brammer. Don't worry Trigg I still love you and I really hope you ship this 10r
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 04:34:21 AM »

i didnt fold i timed out mug
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 04:57:07 AM »

I would very very rarely fold pre here with these stack sizes and positions the guy would have to be tighter than RDCRSN and Young Supremacy ghosting Craig McCorkell. You dominate the vast majority of his 3 betting range so when you flop top pair its basically the nuts and can induce in a varitey of ways depending on the texture of the board. Being suited is key here (I would likely fold kq offsuit to some villains a lot) as you can flop loads of draws that you can semi bluff with eg. by check calling the flop and then check  shoving over a 2nd barrel with these stack sizes. You can even check call float the flop oop and jam over turn barrels when you turn equity as he is going to 3 barrel your cards when you turn top pair. An example of this would be a  t42 rainbow board with 1 club. On this board u can check call the flop and then check jam any 9, any jacl and  any club and check call down on any queen or king (please call every river though) .Rupert nailed it with the blockers line, it really lowers the number of combinations of value hands the villain can have. KQ here is essentially JJ (even though you will probably never flat JJ pre here) but I might fold the JJ on the river but have to calll the kq because of  the blockers to his possible combination of value hands factor.

Saying all that I don't think the river is too close really because lets assume your average online reg deep in a big 6 max comp is going to be decently aggressive and especially  in these positions (cutoff to button). Therefor they are  going to have so much air in their range preflop. He keeps all that air in his range by c betting q62 rainbow close to 100% of the time, he ALWAYS barrels the ace unless he has something (lol) so he gets to the river with close to 100% of his air still. A king rolls off on the river and he has a good stack to pot jam left..... there is no way that kq can be a fold agaisnt this range even though it 100% is just a bluff catcher against any1 with a brain. There are just 2 many bluffs to catch and you block too many combos of his value hands.

After you find out that villain is Brendoor you should probably go and kill yourself as he is less likely to have a hand here than the UK's latest online sensation Chris Brammer. Don't worry Trigg I still love you and I really hope you ship this 10r

brilliant!

need brendoor to reveal all
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