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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 08:50:37 PM » |
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I folded, not sure I woulda folded to Mr dubious. Utg limper had aa ofc, dubious guy folded AK.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM » |
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what do we do with KK?
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 11:26:28 AM » |
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what do we do with KK?
Cry? Surely it still should be a fold if we are sure that UTG is only capable of doing this with KK+. Yes in game I would still call it off, they are Kings obviously, but in theory when UTG is playing so face up isn't it still a fold? |
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM » |
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what do we do with KK?
I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here? |
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2011, 03:30:17 PM » |
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what do we do with KK?
I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here? Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here? |
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2011, 03:32:42 PM » |
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what do we do with KK?
I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here? Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here? Nah, think he prob does the same with KK, but not with QQ |
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 12:10:03 AM » |
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what do we do with KK?
I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here? Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here? the difference is that KK blocks KK (lol) so if say he is light here X% of the time, the 12 combos of AA/KK (assuming no other value hand) become 7 and its means he is marginally more likely to have air by taking 44%ish of his value hands out. However in reality he is prolly light here >2% (if that) so the difference is completely negligable. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 01:42:06 AM » |
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what do we do with KK?
I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here? Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here? the difference is that KK blocks KK (lol) so if say he is light here X% of the time, the 12 combos of AA/KK (assuming no other value hand) become 7 and its means he is marginally more likely to have air by taking 44%ish of his value hands out. However in reality he is prolly light here >2% (if that) so the difference is completely negligable. yh, i know it blocks, but this was my point.. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 03:38:25 AM » |
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Interesting, since KK blocks KK do you think this make it an even more of a comfortable fold than QQ? Assuming villian will never make this play with jacks and queens only some of the time.
(Fwiw i have folded kings pre only once in a super obv spot otherwise never)
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 04:23:15 AM » |
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Interesting, since KK blocks KK do you think this make it an even more of a comfortable fold than QQ? Assuming villian will never make this play with jacks and queens only some of the time.
(Fwiw i have folded kings pre only once in a super obv spot otherwise never)
no it makes it more of a get in because from a pure mathematical view he is MORE likely to be bluffing. although true stats are polly something like the % he has air increases by like 1.1% lol so its barely even worth talking about |
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2011, 05:12:32 AM » |
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maybe im missing the point but how are KK and QQ the same hand??! If we have KK, we beat QQ. If we have QQ we're crushed by KK. Am I on level one again?  |
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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2011, 08:06:30 AM » |
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maybe im missing the point but how are KK and QQ the same hand??! If we have KK, we beat QQ. If we have QQ we're crushed by KK. Am I on level one again? We're saying they're the same vs villain's range |
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