Is this bad? #1

[zerofive]

50/1 table at Dusk, playing pretty deep (couple of £300+ stacks) we cover. Shortest stack at the table is villain in this hand, playing like £250~ he joined the table probably three or four orbits ago and hasn't really played many hands, but also hasn't gone to showdown yet. Seems pretty TAG, but reckon he probably has some moves etc. Not entirely sure what my image at the table is.

Pre: two folds, tight passive guy opens to £6, I call from the cutoff with , villain makes it £26 from the button. Blinds fold, OR calls, I call.

Flop (£79.50)

Check, I check, villain bets £55. The other guy in the pot snap folds. I call.

Turn (£189.50)

I check. Villain tank shoves £145. I call.

Is this okay?

[cambridgealex]

3b or fold pre.

Fold to the 3b now.

[stato_1]

3b or fold pre, probably fold. Definitely fold to the 3bet.

[pleno1]

fold to the open, def fold to the 3b. as played call flop, fold turn.

[WotRTheChances]

Is this okay?

No. Fold/3b pre. Fold to the 3b. Fold flop, fold turn. This aside, it is okay

[paulhouk03]

fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold

[zerofive]

Why are we folding turn? What do we think he has? Just looks like AK, which obv we don't exactly crush pre but we're beating now. Can it really be this bad?

[kinboshi]

50/1 table at Dusk, playing pretty deep (couple of £300+ stacks) we cover.

Brag post imo.

[mulhuzz]

i've been telling people for years that K8 sooted is the nuts, but you need spades tbh.

you beat exactly AK. which is defo in his range, but so is everything else

[pleno1]

dont think people jam as a bluff here alot and in live cash they will often just check and try and get their flush otr. have to remember live cash is a completely different animal

[pokerfan]

Why are we folding turn? What do we think he has? Just looks like AK, which obv we don't exactly crush pre but we're beating now. Can it really be this bad?

We have a K though, AK less likely.

[muckthenuts]

Why are we folding turn? What do we think he has? Just looks like AK, which obv we don't exactly crush pre but we're beating now. Can it really be this bad?

AA KK QQ JJ AJ KJ QJ 88 just off the top of my head, board looks wet so it's wrong to completely discount fast play when players will definitely do this often.

Calling pre in both spots is setting money on fire, if you're making these sort of calls routinely then that's a big leak you need to look at. 

[Boba Fett]

3bet>fold>call imo

[Mitch]

Sean, even I might consider folding this hand pre.

Make of that what you will..... ;-)

[SuuPRlim]

I think you need some pretty decent reasons to be hero'ing here, so far all we have is;

decent(ish) Villain, buys in for £250, doesnt get involved in his first four orbits then 3bets from the SB and cbets then jams a turn when its obvious you have something.

I don't know what he has done that means we can discredit him from having Aces/kings/queens, we have no info so cant make too may judgements on his bet sizing.

Just give him credit for a premium hand imo, if he's bluffing then fair play w/e he's told a good story and people are allowed to bluff.