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« on: December 05, 2011, 08:18:02 PM » |
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1/2 at Luton this morning. 6 handed. Playing £600. Straddled pot, I open to £14 from utg. Button flats, others fold. Straddle calls. Button is competent & v tight. Normally has nuts or similar. Straddle is gambley and in a £700 hole. Straddler has £105 back, button £254. Flop comes  Straddle jams for £105. Best action for us? Flat to induce the button? Flat to fold if button shoves? Shove to isolate?? Re-assess on turn if button flats? We have the  if it makes a difference.
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Keefy is back  But for how long?
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George2Loose
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 08:21:59 PM » |
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Jam
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George2Loose
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 08:22:37 PM » |
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And WAL
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Ole Ole Ole Ole!
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Girgy85
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 12:42:58 AM » |
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Raise it to £253 and tell the button you aint folding if he shoves.
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Best poster Girgy IMO - Mantis
Girgy is my new hero! - Evilpie
Think Girgy has shown the best leopard instincts in this thread and would prob survive best in the wild. Eye of the tiger that fella - Mantis
Girgy is a m'fkn machine - Daveshoelace
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 12:45:55 AM » |
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Flat , sigh call if button shoves.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 02:51:21 AM » |
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Flat and call a shove imo
Jamming surely just folds out marginal hands that we crush, nothing that we beat and only maybe average draws?
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 12:26:10 PM » |
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dont like description of button, feels like set city. might be call and fold to button jam tbh v right villain (gino). Otherwise call/call.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 03:15:45 PM » |
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burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
dont like description of button, feels like set city. might be call and fold to button jam tbh v right villain (gino). Otherwise call/call.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 04:16:23 PM » |
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Can someone tell me why call/call is better than Jam with these stack sizes? To get villian to specifically shove 99/TT. Surely we want to get rid of any potential draws he has on this board?
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 04:26:48 PM » |
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Can someone tell me why call/call is better than Jam with these stack sizes? To get villian to specifically shove 99/TT. Surely we want to get rid of any potential draws he has on this board?
Prob just flicks it in with any fd's anyway. I think call/fold is definitely possible here if you can soul read the guy too
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 04:45:42 PM » |
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Can someone tell me why call/call is better than Jam with these stack sizes? To get villian to specifically shove 99/TT. Surely we want to get rid of any potential draws he has on this board?
Prob just flicks it in with any fd's anyway. I think call/fold is definitely possible here if you can soul read the guy too Understand call/fold but not call/call over a jam. Maybe just cos I'm a tourney donk
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celtic
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 05:02:48 PM » |
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Ok, assuming we call. The button flats and we see the  . What now? Jamming? Check calling? check folding?
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Keefy is back  But for how long?
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 08:57:09 PM » |
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Can someone tell me why call/call is better than Jam with these stack sizes? To get villian to specifically shove 99/TT. Surely we want to get rid of any potential draws he has on this board?
Prob just flicks it in with any fd's anyway. I think call/fold is definitely possible here if you can soul read the guy too Understand call/fold but not call/call over a jam. Maybe just cos I'm a tourney donk What hands jam over a call that would fold to a jam that beat us or has us in really bad shape?
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Mehtab
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 09:06:37 PM » |
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Standard jam from me. As celtic says if button calls behind, you leave yourself in an awkward spot should a "scare" card come out. Even an offsuit A/K/Q puts u in a bad spot out of position.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 07:27:45 PM » |
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obv a snap jam imo
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