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« on: December 12, 2011, 12:41:29 AM »

Online MTT. (10 seat tables) Blinds 200/400. I'm on 11.5k

Seat 5 opens for 2250, with 13.5k behind. It's folded to me in the cut off. I have QQ.

I haven't been at this table long so no reads on the villain, except that he folded his button twice when there had been no betting.

I Should...  ?
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 12:43:57 AM »

shove
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 12:53:59 AM »

shove

yes not much else.  hopefully he puts you on AK and calls with his jacks.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 01:08:56 AM »

shove

yes not much else.  hopefully he puts you on AK and calls with his jacks.

I did push. He showed jacks and passed.

Is there an argument for just calling here though? I was pretty sure he had a middle pair and was tempted to just flat hoping he will commit on a low flop.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 01:30:33 AM »

No real argument for calling. When he's opening to nearly 6x I'd be expecting him to call 100% of the time.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 01:42:53 AM »

No real argument for calling. When he's opening to nearly 6x I'd be expecting him to call 100% of the time.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 04:56:23 AM »

shove tom, this isn't a close spot.

99 or AJ im like hmmmmm....
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 08:19:16 AM »

Deffo push, people don't generally raise big then fold. He shouldn't have a weak range here still so i'd be shoving JJ+ AK in your spot.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 09:33:08 AM »

jamming AJ would be a mistake as his range is usually 99-jj, aq-ak as he is nervous about getting his "big hand bust again"
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 11:24:14 AM »

Did you note it down Red ? Presume this is Stars.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 12:49:08 PM »

I really don't mind peeling here. This type of players range is so weighted to 77-jj and aq aj that peeling isn't terrible.

I am obv peeling to let him jam a low flop which again is almost a certainty.

I would also peel if there was a bad lag with a big stack in the bb

Obv shoving is the standard line
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 01:12:17 PM »

i'd say its a 7-1 shot he folds now, if he has 77-1010 or wte so many flops he's gonna fold.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 02:47:17 PM »

i'd say its a 7-1 shot he folds now

how much can I bet?
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 02:52:46 PM »

i'd say its a 7-1 shot he folds now

how much can I bet?

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 03:08:47 PM »

The reason we don't flat if he has 77-JJ guy is that he hates a lot of flops and doesn't chunk his money to us as much as if we shove me.

He's opened so big he's rarely folding
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