Sky Poker & blonde.

[technolog]

It's been slow for a few days and wouldn't load at all last night. Seems to be back up now though.

[vegaslover]

hmmm can't get apat to load this morning

[TightEnd]

hmmm can't get apat to load this morning

i know, down again

are you a member of the facebook group? updates and info on there is probably your best way of keeping in touch

[vegaslover]

Nah, proper old school me, don't do faceback ( and thank fk with all the hacked accounts recently)
looked at the player info for Brighton this Saturday so should be okay.

[pleno1]

on a thread which is super important for the future of the forum, there are multiple posts including from the gaffer about another forum. Realllllly? Edit/remove all imo Including this one

[EvilPie]

on a thread which is super important for the future of the forum, there are multiple posts including from the gaffer about another forum. Realllllly? Edit/remove all imo Including this one

You mean APAT?

Don't you realise that the 2 forums are linked in many ways including by many members?

There's no need to remove them whatsoever.

[MC]

I use the Amazon link all the time but have no idea if my purchases are ever tracked. Can someone nudge me that it's been working?

[TightEnd]

Yes, a quarterly payment summary is received

[pleno1]

on a thread which is super important for the future of the forum, there are multiple posts including from the gaffer about another forum. Realllllly? Edit/remove all imo Including this one

You mean APAT?

Don't you realise that the 2 forums are linked in many ways including by many members?

There's no need to remove them whatsoever.

i understand yeh, theres an apat threas somewhere right? Surely best place to post.

Nvm tho.

Excited to hear about news from aussie millions

[vegaslover]

It was never aimed for posts about apat to be here, just how the convo flowed. Besides everyone knows what has happened with skypoker and blonde

[mulhuzz]

pads has a point.

don't cannabalise your own traffic.

[kinboshi]

Don't think you understand the link between APAT and blonde.

The two are very much intertwined, and are mutually beneficial in terms of attracting new members.

[mulhuzz]

Don't think you understand the link between APAT and blonde.

The two are very much intertwined, and are mutually beneficial in terms of attracting new members.

Note: All this assumes that APAT also affiliate to poker rooms. I don't know for certain that they do (didn't visit their website) but it seems like super likely ofc.

I'm almost certain you're grossly overestimating the effect (without knowing the numbers of course) and it still doesn't matter - cannabalizing your own traffic is more or less the nut worst thing you can do as a poker affiliate. One example is how FTP cannabalized their own traffic by only offering rakeback when you used an affiliate which lead to new traffic being intentionally rerouted through affiliates even though the traffic in question likely already knew about FTP and would have signed up anyway. This of course only served to reduce the ROI of marketing campaigns to the point where they were snap spending £30m every three seconds (exaggeration, ofc) on marketing trying to compete with Stars who were always going to win the marketing battle, in part because they retained all of their own pure traffic and this was simply augmented by affiliate traffic (another reason: affiliates get a really shit deal from Stars whereas the Tilt deals are twice to three times as good).

New members mean, with the greatest will in the world, very, very little, once you reach a critical mass of membership which Blonde has certainly obtained unless they are also affiliated and generating rake (via a CPA which is nice but they need to keep playing (usually for the first 90-180 days) to keep the global CPA price up or by a rev share or hybrid deal). Whilst new members add a great deal to community and replace those who, for one reason or another stop posting and getting involved but without affiliation they add nothing to the bottom line. How you ascribe a value to those players (from Blonde's pov, not a sponsor, who has a lottt more outs, cheap marketing, brand awareness, etc, etc, etc) is a discussion that isn't really for this thread, but when I tell you that it isn't very high at all once you reach about 5% of registrations making one post per month (and do some other maths with pageviews and active logins, etc), I'll hope you'll trust me.

[pleno1]

Don't think you understand the link between APAT and blonde.

The two are very much intertwined, and are mutually beneficial in terms of attracting new members.

I understand the connections just fine. The head/chariman of blonde/apat are exactly the same, but afaik the leading shareholer in blonde has nothing to do with apat amirite?

If somebody was looking to buy blonde or interested in buying blonde and the major thread on the site about the future and past problems spirals off into basically "news about apat" another british site, I would probably either 1) end my interest, 2)go and visit apat. This is obviously fine for a crowd of blondes but not the major shareholder or lots and lots and lots of other members (The new breed of blonde ) who don't post on apat.

If the forums are so similar and so linked then why would it not just be one big forum, double the traffic/members/posts would be more appealing for anyone who was looking to buy into a poker forum.

[TightEnd]

If somebody was looking to buy blonde or interested in buying blonde and the major thread on the site about the future and past problems spirals off into basically "news about apat" another british site,

stop exaggerating. One member asked if their forum was down, a few people answered, that's it

By persisting with this nonsense you are perpetuating the "problem" you are complaining about