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Topic: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final (Read 134263 times)
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
no defending the jacks fold. pure collusion.
is it?
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Sterling effort from Matt & Titty! UL Guys.
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Sigh at havin option to swap 7.5% with chantler and dorey. Sure did take it
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come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
imo, it's not at all collusion, cheating or soft-play.
Jack, playing a completely independent game has gone all in, (no collusive behavior between the two of them) now it's on Franky to make his decision, if he decides that calling is less profitable than folding because he has stake interest in Jack then imo he can fold whatever he likes and it would be fine. trying to make maximum +EV decisions innit
fwiw I think it was a terrible fold. it's like the biggest freeroll you can get, without looking exactly at the stacks i'd say it was near on impossible for franky to lose equity by calling here.
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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c'mon Alex, get me out of the hole with the bookie.
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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If Frankie has staked the guy then it's just a weird situation and he didn't know what to do I guess. I very much doubt Frankie would ever do anything if he thought it was against the spirit of the game.
forgot to wish him luck before with the other 3 so gl Frankie! <3
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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I don't think it is collusion at all
It might be a terrible fold (have seen worse, live), but not worse than that. It might not even be bad
I spoke to the TD, there was no issue......
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
imo, it's not at all collusion, cheating or soft-play.
Jack, playing a completely independent game has gone all in, (no collusive behavior between the two of them) now it's on Franky to make his decision, if he decides that calling is less profitable than folding because he has stake interest in Jack then imo he can fold whatever he likes and it would be fine. trying to make maximum +EV decisions innit
fwiw I think it was a terrible fold. it's like the biggest freeroll you can get, without looking exactly at the stacks i'd say it was near on impossible for franky to lose equity by calling here.
So if you have any vested interest in a player you can play accordingly? Sounds a bit dodge to me
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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December 19, 2011, 04:43:03 PM »
Nine handed final begins then.........
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 19, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on December 19, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
imo, it's not at all collusion, cheating or soft-play.
Jack, playing a completely independent game has gone all in, (no collusive behavior between the two of them) now it's on Franky to make his decision, if he decides that calling is less profitable than folding because he has stake interest in Jack then imo he can fold whatever he likes and it would be fine. trying to make maximum +EV decisions innit
fwiw I think it was a terrible fold. it's like the biggest freeroll you can get, without looking exactly at the stacks i'd say it was near on impossible for franky to lose equity by calling here.
100% its not cheating as that is what collusion is. Frankie folded thinking i could be gambling and chucking money away with either out come. if he has AA he thinks no gamble take his chips and win 90k. his honesty cant be questioned here especially whilst he cant explain his thinking to you all.
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 19, 2011, 04:42:37 PM
I don't think it is collusion at all
It might be a terrible fold (have seen worse, live), but not worse than that
I spoke to the TD, there was no issue......
Obv no issue here Tighty. He can argue that he folded jacks cos of the tight opener. No one is saying Frankie colluded/soft played etc etc.
Just talking about the situation in general. maybe again we need to start another thread and let you continue with these excellent updates
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Quote from: smashedagain on December 19, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 19, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on December 19, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
imo, it's not at all collusion, cheating or soft-play.
Jack, playing a completely independent game has gone all in, (no collusive behavior between the two of them) now it's on Franky to make his decision, if he decides that calling is less profitable than folding because he has stake interest in Jack then imo he can fold whatever he likes and it would be fine. trying to make maximum +EV decisions innit
fwiw I think it was a terrible fold. it's like the biggest freeroll you can get, without looking exactly at the stacks i'd say it was near on impossible for franky to lose equity by calling here.
100% its not cheating as that is what collusion is. Frankie folded thinking i could be gambling and chucking money away with either out come. if he has AA he thinks no gamble take his chips and win 90k. his honesty cant be questioned here especially whilst he cant explain his thinking to you all.
In the same way you shouldn't be defending him then cos you have no idea what he is thinking?
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Quote from: smashedagain on December 19, 2011, 04:37:20 PM
Quote from: mulhuzz on December 19, 2011, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 19, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on December 19, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
come on he raise/called utg vs mp with k10 for over 10bigs, he would never fold JJ there to anybody else imo, Allen especially is known to be super aggro right?
I dont think there is much wrong with him folding cos Jack's his horse fwiw
Is this standard practice then? Is it soft play? collusion? Same if he had aces?
no defending the jacks fold. pure collusion.
is it?
hmm perhaps I overreacted.
may well just be horrible play. anyway, ON WITH THE UPDATES!
gogogogog Alex!
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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If anyone knows what frankie is thinking at anytime of day I'll give them my net worth
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Re: DTD Monte Carlo £250,000 Gtd: Day 3 and final
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Quote from: outragous76 on December 19, 2011, 04:48:46 PM
If anyone knows what frankie is thinking at anytime of day I'll give them my net worth
Hardly a big incentive
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