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« on: December 22, 2011, 02:50:16 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16300956.stm


completely fair game imo
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 04:52:30 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 04:59:17 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 05:48:49 PM »

When the keeper first looks round, there's a guy charging him 2 yards away. (and defo looking like he doesn't want to congratulate the keeper at that point) The first kick to the midriff is therefore entirely reasonable self defence.

The pitch invader is thereafter on the ground, posing no immediate danger and the stewards are closing in.  So at that point, all the additional kicks are just thuggery and he deserves a red card and disciplinary action thereafter.

I have no sympathy with the pitch invader btw, I don't care if the stewards took him out back and gave him his reward. 

But it isn't the keeper's job.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 05:55:20 PM »

If the thug had a knife would it be alright to carry on kicking him?
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 05:56:51 PM »

When the keeper first looks round, there's a guy charging him 2 yards away. (and defo looking like he doesn't want to congratulate the keeper at that point) The first kick to the midriff is therefore entirely reasonable self defence.

The pitch invader is thereafter on the ground, posing no immediate danger and the stewards are closing in.  So at that point, all the additional kicks are just thuggery and he deserves a red card and disciplinary action thereafter.

I have no sympathy with the pitch invader btw, I don't care if the stewards took him out back and gave him his reward. 

But it isn't the keeper's job.

I entirely agree with you Simon.

By the same token I don't think it's the ref's job to punish him for his thuggery, surely it's a police matter.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 06:02:46 PM »

When the keeper first looks round, there's a guy charging him 2 yards away. (and defo looking like he doesn't want to congratulate the keeper at that point) The first kick to the midriff is therefore entirely reasonable self defence.

The pitch invader is thereafter on the ground, posing no immediate danger and the stewards are closing in.  So at that point, all the additional kicks are just thuggery and he deserves a red card and disciplinary action thereafter.

I have no sympathy with the pitch invader btw, I don't care if the stewards took him out back and gave him his reward. 

But it isn't the keeper's job.


LOL


So fan has just ran onto the pitch to attacked you, you have been kicked and the guy has fallen over right infront of you, you have a split second to think about what you are going to do

Do you kick him and keep him on the ground as you dont know if he has any weapons

or

Stick to rules leave him on the ground let him get up and stab you


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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 06:05:15 PM »

When the keeper first looks round, there's a guy charging him 2 yards away. (and defo looking like he doesn't want to congratulate the keeper at that point) The first kick to the midriff is therefore entirely reasonable self defence.

The pitch invader is thereafter on the ground, posing no immediate danger and the stewards are closing in.  So at that point, all the additional kicks are just thuggery and he deserves a red card and disciplinary action thereafter.

I have no sympathy with the pitch invader btw, I don't care if the stewards took him out back and gave him his reward. 

But it isn't the keeper's job.


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So fan has just ran onto the pitch to attacked you, you have been kicked and the guy has fallen over right infront of you, you have a split second to think about what you are going to do

Do you kick him and keep him on the ground as you dont know if he has any weapons

or

Stick to rules leave him on the ground let him get up and stab you




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The guy is clearly a bit mental if he's running on to the pitch to attack a player. I'd have booted him and not let him get up too.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 06:48:27 PM »

Not saying it's right or wrong to keep booting the guy but imo the keeper shouldn't be sent off. Let the police or whoever deal with the aftermath.



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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 07:02:37 PM »

Not saying it's right or wrong to keep booting the guy but imo the keeper shouldn't be sent off. Let the police or whoever deal with the aftermath.





Is it actually against the rules?  If so, red card ok imo.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 07:05:04 PM »

Not saying it's right or wrong to keep booting the guy but imo the keeper shouldn't be sent off. Let the police or whoever deal with the aftermath.





Is it actually against the rules?  If so, red card ok imo.

Yes it is, but common sense when the keeper is under threat surely.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 07:21:00 PM »

Not saying it's right or wrong to keep booting the guy but imo the keeper shouldn't be sent off. Let the police or whoever deal with the aftermath.





Is it actually against the rules?  If so, red card ok imo.

Inside the penalty area too so should it have been a pen.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 08:27:27 PM »

Disappointed and ashamed of keeper's actions here. He is supposed to be a professional footballer. His second kick is blocked far too easy by drunk assailant lying prone on the floor. Dude needs to lift those knees and get them studs coming down vertically on chest/face of attacker.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 08:30:44 PM »

Disappointed and ashamed of keeper's actions here. He is supposed to be a professional footballer. His second kick is blocked far too easy by drunk assailant lying prone on the floor. Dude needs to lift those knees and get them studs coming down vertically on chest/face of attacker.

Lol, that might just be your greatest ever post.  thumbs up
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 08:32:50 PM »

Not saying it's right or wrong to keep booting the guy but imo the keeper shouldn't be sent off. Let the police or whoever deal with the aftermath.





Is it actually against the rules?  If so, red card ok imo.

Inside the penalty area too so should it have been a pen.

good point, useless ref not even knowing the basics,

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