AA in a 3 bet pot...

[craiggg999]

£1-£2 NL game at local club.

Hero playing around £330 and villain playing £300.

Straddle to £5 is on and hero is UTG. I open to £12(the standard open) which folds round to the villain in the small blind who is a very loose player who has been 3 betting around 80% of hands. He makes it £30 to go, which then folds back round to me.
I elect to flat in position....thoughts??
The flop comes       and he insta bets out £50, at this point I feel he has to have a big pair too, 88-KK so elect to flat again to slow him to feel in control of the pot and to let him bluff off his stack with air, something he is very likely to do.
The turn comes a  which I feel is a bad card for me as the kind of player he is, 88 through to QQ he may now check fold too. But once again he snap leads £75.... What do you feel is the right approach to the hand, and should I have done anything differently pre flop or on the flop??

[craiggg999]

Ignore the  not sure where that appeared... And also my hand is    in case nobody noticed the subject....

[rfgqqabc]

Keep calling until you can wager all of your chips on the river, he probably won't slow down, deffo tanking to look weak too.

[TheFallen]

preflop sizes seems funny. i think the K turn isnt bad as he will rep this hard with a lot of his air therefore i'm calling turn to let him bet river.

[Bully87]

Dont really see a problem with the hand, if he's 3b a pair and flopped a set fair enough we have to pay but bar that, we're not losing to anything he 3b's pre.
Just feel like he's barrelling til you fold and the bets seem very auto click.

Just call and stack of on the river where your AA crushes his AK

[SuuPRlim]

preflop sizes seems funny.

yh £12 over a £5 straddle? I'd be making it £20 or £25 here.

King is a good card imo always bets his air and if hes 3betting loads he'll prolly have quite a few Kx's.

Call. and call any river....except mainly a King, that would be a really shit river

[cambridgealex]

make it at least 15 pre. 20 if ppl will call that. just because 12 is what other ppl are making it doesn't make it right or "standard".

flatting pre is ok cos you're only 60bbs deep and IP, but you can't go wrong with a small 4b to 70 or something. stacks'll go in easy peasy. this is very player dependant - if he's awake - flat, asleep - 4bet.

Once we flat, we're just call, call calling most board textures, especially this sort. it's a gift.

calling all in on any river, even a K (although it's the worst one obv).

[smashedagain]

 . Lol I thought this was a reference to stu ungar in an interview where he slated his opponent for thinking King Ding was the nuts

[muckthenuts]

Call,call,call to give him max rope for his bluffs and to value own himself seems the best line. That said his sizing seems pretty strong so i don't think raising flop/turn would be a huge mistake by any means. Could be more optimal at times vs tight/passive opponents who will shut down to any form of scare cards on the turn or river but will get 77 in on a flop like this. Said villian prob has a couple of bluffs in his range so keep him in.

[craiggg999]

Decided to Jam the turn, reason being if he does have Kx he isnt folding... and if he does have 88-QQ hes still probably not folding and dont want anymore scare cards on the river to get him away from these pairs. So he leads £75, i jam for £190 i think it was, he dwells and asks if i have a set ... LOL and then says ok ok i call. Im thinking i must be beat now hes asked that, must have a raggy low 2 pair right? ....No he has the AK off...and binks a K on the river for good measure cant breathe. Thanks for responses though, seems like I played it nearly as well a i could have been.
In regard to your comment about pre sizing bets CambridgeAlex, he was 3 betting like 80% of the time, so wanted to keep it in that sort of range so that he could feel like he could 3 bet me, rather than me making it £20 /£25 and him having to feel like he has to make it £60 which i feel could put him off 3 betting...

[SuuPRlim]

In regard to your comment about pre sizing bets CambridgeAlex, he was 3 betting like 80% of the time, so wanted to keep it in that sort of range so that he could feel like he could 3 bet me, rather than me making it £20 /£25 and him having to feel like he has to make it £60 which i feel could put him off 3 betting...

in this case we need to 4bet.

[zerofive]

Decided to Jam the turn, reason being if he does have Kx he isnt folding... and if he does have 88-QQ hes still probably not folding and dont want anymore scare cards on the river to get him away from these pairs. So he leads £75, i jam for £190 i think it was, he dwells and asks if i have a set ... LOL and then says ok ok i call. Im thinking i must be beat now hes asked that, must have a raggy low 2 pair right? ....No he has the AK off...and binks a K on the river for good measure cant breathe. Thanks for responses though, seems like I played it nearly as well a i could have been.
In regard to your comment about pre sizing bets CambridgeAlex, he was 3 betting like 80% of the time, so wanted to keep it in that sort of range so that he could feel like he could 3 bet me, rather than me making it £20 /£25 and him having to feel like he has to make it £60 which i feel could put him off 3 betting...

I'm not saying that you are, this is just in case you might be swaying towards this type of thinking: try not to be put off by results. I only say this because I've noticed you post your results a lot. A lot of the time we can end up thinking "if only I'd have just jammed/folded there..." when we see the hand played back. Take solace in the knowing that you've made a +ev decision, be it +$ or that you got unlucky.

Also, if villain is so maniacal that his 3bet stat is actually 80% and that's not just an exaggeration, then I see no reason for him to slow down just because you've opened slightly bigger. Having said this, if you're absolutely sure he's 3betting when you make it £12, but not when you make it £20, then we should probably be 4betting pre. Villain sounds like the perfect spot to have at the table, let's get him to give us some money! It's hard to do this with small raises and flat calls.

[muckthenuts]

In regard to your comment about pre sizing bets CambridgeAlex, he was 3 betting like 80% of the time, so wanted to keep it in that sort of range so that he could feel like he could 3 bet me, rather than me making it £20 /£25 and him having to feel like he has to make it £60 which i feel could put him off 3 betting...

in this case we need to 4bet.

Why?

[AlexMartin]

£1-£2 NL game at local club.

Hero playing around £330 and villain playing £300.

Straddle to £5 is on and hero is UTG. I open to £12(the standard open) which folds round to the villain in the small blind who is a very loose player who has been 3 betting around 80% of hands. He makes it £30 to go, which then folds back round to me.
I elect to flat in position....thoughts??
The flop comes       and he insta bets out £50, at this point I feel he has to have a big pair too, 88-KK so elect to flat again to slow him to feel in control of the pot and to let him bluff off his stack with air, something he is very likely to do.
The turn comes a  which I feel is a bad card for me as the kind of player he is, 88 through to QQ he may now check fold too. But once again he snap leads £75.... What do you feel is the right approach to the hand, and should I have done anything differently pre flop or on the flop??

dont get this bit, hand looks wp though, just tank call turn then snap his arm off otr. wp.

[Bully87]

Just call and stack of on the river where your AA crushes his AK

Just forgot the bit where he binks trips on the river, nobodies perfect :/

Unlucky and well played, about the 4b although doesn't this fold out a lot of his air/marginals?