PokerStars VIP Program & Ring Game Rake Changes for 2012

[pokerfan]

Daleroxxu Dale Philip
First 1200 PLO hands of 2012, old rake system = 470 VPPs. New rake system = 312 VPPs. Played 22 vpip at avg 30 vpip tables.
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[Longy]

Lol, Stars have restricted people to 1 table who are trying to sit out.

[MC]

Lol, Stars have restricted people to 1 table who are trying to sit out.

pretty smart!

[skolsuper]

Dale also made a pretty good post about it here: http://www.daleroxxu.co.uk/2012/01/pokerstars-new-vpp-award-method.html

Good to see at least 1 stars reg catching up with what the rest of the world realised 2 years ago..

wow. player power threatening a sit out stops the change.

[  ] this was the reason

What was then? I can't see why a company would not respond to a large section of their customer base kicking off for the world to see?

No point trying tto make 10% off your regs if you lose 15/20% of their custom/volume.

Pretty easy to take back a discount that people complain about. Win/win.

[chatban]

It wasn't a discount. It was taking from one and giving to another. Plo100/200 would have been dormant. I agree with the change to weighted though. Breakeven rake back pros just got ita bit harder

[skolsuper]

It wasn't a discount. It was taking from one and giving to another. Plo100/200 would have been dormant. I agree with the change to weighted though. Breakeven rake back pros just got ita bit harder

They didn't take back the Weighted Contribution part of the changes. They took back the reduction from 5 to 4.5% and rake cap changes that they claimed would result in a net decrease in rake. Either they're liars or it was a discount that people complained about.

[doubleup]

Lol, Stars have restricted people to 1 table who are trying to sit out.

pretty smart!

don't think so. they've created a festering sore (and apparently they are messing up ppl who are trying to play normally).

[chatban]

It wasn't a discount. It was taking from one and giving to another. Plo100/200 would have been dormant. I agree with the change to weighted though. Breakeven rake back pros just got ita bit harder

They didn't take back the Weighted Contribution part of the changes. They took back the reduction from 5 to 4.5% and rake cap changes that they claimed would result in a net decrease in rake. Either they're liars or it was a discount that people complained about.

A decrease for some and an increase for others. 5 handed 6 max tables rake was to increase along with higher stakes games.

It did work out to a net decrease for the majority of the player poop though. Obviously there are two elements to the complaints and i agree its funny they took away the part most 2p2 regs didnt care about.

FWIW they are also advocating more vpps and not a decrease in rake now. Pathetic how they are not looking out for the player pool but just a small section of SNE

[TightEnd]

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http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/PokerStrategy.com-Receives-Exclusive-Statement-From-PokerStars-on-Rake-Changes_55237/

[mapp888]

its definitely good for the game especially in the long run.

[Longy]

Nice cliffs by pokerstrategy but exclusive is journalistic license. The whole piece is a condensed version of the 2+2 threads with 3 lines at the end which add nothing to the story.

[FUN4FRASER]

Greedy Greedy Pokerstars

http://www.poker.org/news/pokerstars-rake-changes-creates-player-uproar-14260/

[outragous76]

Greedy Greedy Pokerstars

http://www.poker.org/news/pokerstars-rake-changes-creates-player-uproar-14260/

what happened to Mr Positive? People gotta make money you know! 

[FUN4FRASER]

always up beat and positive Guy    just pointing out the facts for the good of the blonde cause

[smashedagain]

always up beat and positive Guy    just pointing out the facts for the good of the blonde cause

when have facts ever mattered