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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2012, 10:32:53 PM »

Thread has potential to get heated. Awesome!!
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2012, 10:42:42 PM »

'Kids and their Mums first' IMO, any other women are treated the same as men. A fair, undiscriminating society.

I would say old dudes next, but doesn't that mean everyone on a ships cruise?? You'd spend more time squabbling about who's oldest...

The priority should be those with longest to live first and those who have lived most of their lives and have least left to go should be last, with the rest in between.

"Can all those with terminal illnesses, regardless of age, please make their way to the back of the queue for the lifeboats please"

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Absolutely. If places are limited, people with terminal diseases should not be taking places from those who will benefit most and potentially contribute most to the world. Are you saying that someone who will live for six months should get one of the limited places before someone who is likely to live for 50 years?

TBH John I personally find it beyond belief that anyone can think this.

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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2012, 10:46:57 PM »

In an 'end of the world' type situation where preservation of the human race was concerned then yes you'd have to favour healthier people I suppose.

However this isn't one of those so given the way human nature is in general all the strong people would be helping the weaker ones because that's what we do.

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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2012, 10:55:50 PM »

'Kids and their Mums first' IMO, any other women are treated the same as men. A fair, undiscriminating society.

I would say old dudes next, but doesn't that mean everyone on a ships cruise?? You'd spend more time squabbling about who's oldest...

The priority should be those with longest to live first and those who have lived most of their lives and have least left to go should be last, with the rest in between.

"Can all those with terminal illnesses, regardless of age, please make their way to the back of the queue for the lifeboats please"

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Absolutely. If places are limited, people with terminal diseases should not be taking places from those who will benefit most and potentially contribute most to the world. Are you saying that someone who will live for six months should get one of the limited places before someone who is likely to live for 50 years?

TBH John I personally find it beyond belief that anyone can think this.

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Put it the other way round George. If places are limited, are you saying that someone who has not yet lived much of their life; not yet had children; not made their contribution to the world; should be sacrificed to save someone who has already experienced all those things and is going to die in a short time anyway?
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« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2012, 12:08:34 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.
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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2012, 12:18:45 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?
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« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2012, 12:21:24 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2012, 12:34:05 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.
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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2012, 12:36:42 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

if that's wit, kill me now.
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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2012, 12:45:17 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

if that's wit, kill me now.

I think you would be somewhere near the front
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2012, 07:21:03 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

I tried very hard not to laugh, but eventually I relented.
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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2012, 07:22:50 AM »


Looks a loada baloney tbh, but u get the point...

To be honest, I've no idea what point your trying to make. Feel free to explain.
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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2012, 09:28:07 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

I tried very hard not to laugh, but eventually I relented.

In Mantis' defence, it was pretty funny, I nearly wet myself too, Tony.

I just initially scanned your post Mantis, apologies, I thought you were just continuing the sentiments of those in the posts before you. I see now that it was in fact a subtle but ironic attack on their position. Note to self: read all posts of Mantis word-for-word in future to avoid embarrassment.
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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2012, 09:30:43 AM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

I tried very hard not to laugh, but eventually I relented.

In Mantis' defence, it was pretty funny, I nearly wet myself too, Tony.

I just initially scanned your post Mantis, apologies, I thought you were just continuing the sentiments of those in the posts before you. I see now that it was in fact a subtle but ironic attack on their position. Note to self: read all posts of Mantis word-for-word in future to avoid embarrassment.

No worries Manuel, no worries at all, the written word & all that.

Slowly slowly people are at last realising that MANTIS has a physical deformity, in that his tongue is usually wedged firmly in his cheek.
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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2012, 01:50:54 PM »

If somebody is young and stupid I'm not sure they should get priority over old and intelligent. Perhaps it would be a good idea for everybody to submit a CV and take a brief numeracy test before they embark so accurate life potential can be assessed by the ship's crew. A middle-aged teacher who produces brilliant students year on year shouldn't be bumped for a young lad who spends his time drinking mad dog 20 20 in bus shelters.

Can you actually measure the value of a life by what it produces or contributes to society?

I'm guessing the 'locked-in' paraplegic is the very first to go?

Nah, first to go would be people unable to grasp the notion of wit.

I tried very hard not to laugh, but eventually I relented.

In Mantis' defence, it was pretty funny, I nearly wet myself too, Tony.

I just initially scanned your post Mantis, apologies, I thought you were just continuing the sentiments of those in the posts before you. I see now that it was in fact a subtle but ironic attack on their position. Note to self: read all posts of Mantis word-for-word in future to avoid embarrassment.

Np np what a gracious post.

In all seriousness I'm a passionate campaigner for equality and that's why I think the 'locked-in' paraplegic should be made to swim for it like the rest of us.
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