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« on: January 22, 2012, 04:41:05 PM »

€190 + 10, 30k gteed. No solid reads on utg, seat 6 is loose aggressive.

Blinds 100/200. utg bets 500 from 4.5k. seat 6 makes it 800 from 4.2k. We are in the bb playing 6k. We have QQ.

Our move?
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 04:55:42 PM »


Unless his min 3 bet means a monster I'd just push.  omlettes egg-breaking etc 

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 05:02:59 PM »


Unless his min 3 bet means a monster I'd just push.  omlettes egg-breaking etc 



So your saying if he has a monster, don't push?
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 05:03:03 PM »

jam, its 22bigs effective and even though they have tight ranges our hand still plays well vs them and we can profitably shove, although I'm not super happy about it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 05:10:28 PM »


Unless his min 3 bet means a monster I'd just push.  omlettes egg-breaking etc 



So your saying if he has a monster, don't push?

well obv if you know that just fold Smiley  I was only raising the possibility that the min 3 bet might be significant.  If it isn't just push.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 05:12:21 PM »


Unless his min 3 bet means a monster I'd just push.  omlettes egg-breaking etc 



So your saying if he has a monster, don't push?

well obv if you know that just fold Smiley  I was only raising the possibility that the min 3 bet might be significant.  If it isn't just push.

Lol I knew what you meant. I was worried that the min raise was significant too.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 05:13:45 PM »


Unless his min 3 bet means a monster I'd just push.  omlettes egg-breaking etc 



So your saying if he has a monster, don't push?

a monster to a lag with 20 bigs is 9's+ tho that we do well vs
well obv if you know that just fold Smiley  I was only raising the possibility that the min 3 bet might be significant.  If it isn't just push.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 07:20:18 PM »

we can't call?
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 07:24:40 PM »

I hate pushing here
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 08:06:59 PM »

shove 'em in
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 12:53:58 AM »

So we call. Utg shoves, seat 6 shoves.

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 01:31:04 AM »

Happily fold and thank our lucky stars we were a clever enough boy to avoid the utg+1's now obvious monster??

We can't be good vs his range here unless he's a sicko.. i mean its not like he's ever got 10's or J's so what do we beat?  oh wait he could have AK!!!! (they've always got AK) Tongue

Utg could be light, since you present the best squeeze spot here.. he might even expect (read hope) utg+1 to fold QQ down.. sometimes AK..
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 03:45:58 AM »

calling pre flop far and away worst option I'm afraid to say Mr. Dog

Jamming and folding both seem not too unreasonable, I'd jam almost always personally but can't see a fold being terrible, I think calling is bad though.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 11:01:23 AM »

As played its an obvious fold. Calling pre here though is gonna get you in too many messes. You're better off jamming hard like Bob Marley
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 12:06:27 PM »

Yes. Jamming was the best option, followed by folding.

Calling was the worst move, but that's what I did. Then I folded when they both jammed.

UTG had 10s, seat 6 had 8s. Queens would have stood up.
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