Bet365 jokeaments

[The Camel]

New plan.

It appears that at least for now I'm allowed to win reasonable amounts on football bets.

Someone's recommended via PM that I just have a few big bets just to release the bonus.

I like the sound of this as all I want to do now is spite get that free £200

So I'm looking for 3 reasonable odds on footy bets where I can get the full £200 on.

Obviously they all have to be at different times.

Is Manchester City to beat Fulham at 3/10 decent?

I'm not looking for value particularly just something that will probably happen.

If I recall correctly for bets to be included in clearing the bonus with bet365 they have to be at 1/2 or bigger.

[mondatoo]

New plan.

It appears that at least for now I'm allowed to win reasonable amounts on football bets.

Someone's recommended via PM that I just have a few big bets just to release the bonus.

I like the sound of this as all I want to do now is spite get that free £200

So I'm looking for 3 reasonable odds on footy bets where I can get the full £200 on.

Obviously they all have to be at different times.

Is Manchester City to beat Fulham at 3/10 decent?

I'm not looking for value particularly just something that will probably happen.

If I recall correctly for bets to be included in clearing the bonus with bet365 they have to be at 1/2 or bigger.

Yeah I was gunna say this, not sure on odds but there is a restriction.

[The Camel]

The thing about bookies restricting punters so quickly is they are restricting alot of mug punters as well as shrewdies (not saying Matt is a mug!)

Vegas casinos went through a period about 10-15 years ago of banning alot of players who won at blackjack because they thought they were card counters.

But they realised two things after a while:

1. Alot of regular gamblers stopped playing with them because they felt if they won they would be thrown out (and if the casino was happy to take their action they must be a mug)

2. They were banning far too many players - lots were just regular players pressing up after a win streak.

Now, as long as you aren't greedy and try to win fortunes you can get away with being a card conuter very successfully in Vegas. They hardly ban anyone in the big casinos (Bellagio, Wynn, Venetian etc)

Just hope one day very soon bookmakers in this country will realise the same thing.

In reality very few punters are long term winners.

[EvilPie]

Just checked the ts and cs.

Looks like I got my bonus just in time. They've now changed it to 150% match up to £150 but you have to play through it 20 times!!

That could be difficult at 3 quid a pop!!

Anyway as has been said there are terms regarding bet sizes but it's not very specific.

13.    No minimal risk wagering is allowed to contribute towards any part of this promotion, including bonus wagering requirements or the accumulation of any points. Players deemed to be using minimal risk wagering tactics to redeem their bonuses or cash prizes risk having their bonuses, cash prizes and any subsequent winnings removed.

I've just had £25 on Man City which will release my bonus but I don't know what to do next.

Maybe just doing 3 £200 coin flips is the way forward.

At least then if I win I get a decent amount back.

[The Camel]

Just checked the ts and cs.

Looks like I got my bonus just in time. They've now changed it to 150% match up to £150 but you have to play through it 20 times!!

That could be difficult at 3 quid a pop!!

Anyway as has been said there are terms regarding bet sizes but it's not very specific.

13.    No minimal risk wagering is allowed to contribute towards any part of this promotion, including bonus wagering requirements or the accumulation of any points. Players deemed to be using minimal risk wagering tactics to redeem their bonuses or cash prizes risk having their bonuses, cash prizes and any subsequent winnings removed.

I've just had £25 on Man City which will release my bonus but I don't know what to do next.

Maybe just doing 3 £200 coin flips is the way forward.

At least then if I win I get a decent amount back.

Still showing as £200 matched opening bonus on my screen

http://www.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/open-account-offer/

Also this from the terms and conditions:

11. Any bets placed containing selections at odds of less than 1/2 (1.50) will not count towards any rollover requirement.

[EvilPie]

The thing about bookies restricting punters so quickly is they are restricting alot of mug punters as well as shrewdies (not saying Matt is a mug!)

Vegas casinos went through a period about 10-15 years ago of banning alot of players who won at blackjack because they thought they were card counters.

But they realised two things after a while:

1. Alot of regular gamblers stopped playing with them because they felt if they won they would be thrown out (and if the casino was happy to take their action they must be a mug)

2. They were banning far too many players - lots were just regular players pressing up after a win streak.

Now, as long as you aren't greedy and try to win fortunes you can get away with being a card conuter very successfully in Vegas. They hardly ban anyone in the big casinos (Bellagio, Wynn, Venetian etc)

Just hope one day very soon bookmakers in this country will realise the same thing.

In reality very few punters are long term winners.

I agree with this entirely. It doesn't seem very clever of them to place such immediate restrictions.

What's likely to happen now is that I'll end up being flagged as a bonus chaser. The truth of it is that I signed up because of the bonus (which is obviously why they do it) but I would happily have deposited regularly in to the account.

It's because of their ridiculous policies that I will now never deposit with them again but instead am going to try to claim my bonus then clear off.

What's the point enticing people in then immediately giving them a very good reason to leave?

[The Camel]

Have you got a link to the t and c's you are seeing Matt?

My number 13 says this: Bets placed on Financials which are closed early will not count towards any rollover requirement.

Yours says: 13.    No minimal risk wagering is allowed to contribute towards any part of this promotion, including bonus wagering requirements or the accumulation of any points. Players deemed to be using minimal risk wagering tactics to redeem their bonuses or cash prizes risk having their bonuses, cash prizes and any subsequent winnings removed.

Very strange.

[EvilPie]

Just checked the ts and cs.

Looks like I got my bonus just in time. They've now changed it to 150% match up to £150 but you have to play through it 20 times!!

That could be difficult at 3 quid a pop!!

Anyway as has been said there are terms regarding bet sizes but it's not very specific.

13.    No minimal risk wagering is allowed to contribute towards any part of this promotion, including bonus wagering requirements or the accumulation of any points. Players deemed to be using minimal risk wagering tactics to redeem their bonuses or cash prizes risk having their bonuses, cash prizes and any subsequent winnings removed.

I've just had £25 on Man City which will release my bonus but I don't know what to do next.

Maybe just doing 3 £200 coin flips is the way forward.

At least then if I win I get a decent amount back.

Still showing as £200 matched opening bonus on my screen

http://www.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/open-account-offer/

Also this from the terms and conditions:

11. Any bets placed containing selections at odds of less than 1/2 (1.50) will not count towards any rollover requirement.

Hmmm.

I went through account > history > offers > offers available > opening bonus and found it in there. Just assumed they'd recently changed it when I saw it there.

Right then. Looks like I need 3 1/2 shots at £200 a pop to try to make a £500 withdrawal. Just need to find them.

[EvilPie]

Have you got a link to the t and c's you are seeing Matt?

My number 13 says this: Bets placed on Financials which are closed early will not count towards any rollover requirement.

Yours says: 13.    No minimal risk wagering is allowed to contribute towards any part of this promotion, including bonus wagering requirements or the accumulation of any points. Players deemed to be using minimal risk wagering tactics to redeem their bonuses or cash prizes risk having their bonuses, cash prizes and any subsequent winnings removed.

Very strange.

Ah hang on. I was looking at a different opening offer.

It was one available to me for bingo or something.

As you were.

[redarmi]

The thing about bookies restricting punters so quickly is they are restricting alot of mug punters as well as shrewdies (not saying Matt is a mug!)
Vegas casinos went through a period about 10-15 years ago of banning alot of players who won at blackjack because they thought they were card counters.
But they realised two things after a while:
1. Alot of regular gamblers stopped playing with them because they felt if they won they would be thrown out (and if the casino was happy to take their action they must be a mug)
2. They were banning far too many players - lots were just regular players pressing up after a win streak.
Now, as long as you aren't greedy and try to win fortunes you can get away with being a card conuter very successfully in Vegas. They hardly ban anyone in the big casinos (Bellagio, Wynn, Venetian etc)
Just hope one day very soon bookmakers in this country will realise the same thing.
In reality very few punters are long term winners.

Agree totally.  The biggest and most successful bookmakers in the world all take bets from sharp punters to a certain extent and when I was a bookie we tried wherever possible to try and give the punter some kind of a bet.  On occasions that might have been £25 e/w on a pricewise horse first thing in the morning but at least they got something and we, in return, knew that they would call us first  when they were trying to get a bet.  Most punters that win are only shrewd in one sport or they tend to have leaks where the bookie can be profitable.  Fore example there is literally no chance at all that I will not have a bet on the superbowl tomorrow night.  Some of the more obscure props I would expect to have a slight edge in but the pointspread and total are pretty much unbeatable imo yet I will still have a daft £50 on.  Bookies should have their license revoked if they are unwilling to take a bet on those markets.  Similarly Premiership football, Grand National, Derby, etc etc.  One thing is for sure when I have those interest bets they will go to the bookies that provide a service during the rest of the year.

[redarmi]

On a slightly different note I thought when poker was first introduced to these online sportsbooks that if you were a big raker on their poker site then you would be much more likely to get a decent bet with them but when Ladbrokes first started I used to play on their site a fair bit and it didn't make the slightest difference to my betting limits.  I would have thought it would make good sense to keep those guys in play even if there was a slight effect on the players overall profitability.  Interesting question for Tikay perhaps - if one of your top rakers got all of their sports bets knocked back to £5 yet was regularly sitting at 10-12 the Sky Poker cash tables and threatened to leave because of it would it make a difference at all or can you simply not get involved? (obviously I understand you may not want to answer this but I have no agenda)

[EvilPie]

Latest development.

Apparently if I withdraw any money from the account I lose the bonus.

I currently have £291 in there of which £200 is bonus money.

In order to claim the bonus I have to play through it 3 times. I can't start this though until I lose the other £91.

So basically in order to get £200 you have to lose £200. Nobody who is a winner will ever be able to get their bonus.

Thanks for enticing me to your site bet365. I'm now leaving because you are shit.

[FUN4FRASER]

I Think Reading will crush coventry on Saturday if thats any good   1 -2 @ BET365

http://www.bet365.com/instantbet/default.asp?participantid=247989446&affiliatecode=odc10&odds=1/2&instantbet=1


just read their terms...you do have to bet the £200 3 TIMES...BOLLOCKS

[Graham C]

It's bollocks that you have to lose your own money before you start to bet theirs 3 times, surely it's just betting the amount through, sounds like a scam like this.

[EvilPie]

It's bollocks that you have to lose your own money before you start to bet theirs 3 times, surely it's just betting the amount through, sounds like a scam like this.

I'll check with support tomorrow. You're probably right.