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« on: February 25, 2012, 04:41:14 PM »

Dtd 250 6max, I look down at ak utg, open, at which point the dealer goes: “hang on a minute, I've not shuffled the cards“. Pretty funny, what now?
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 04:45:06 PM »

you get you bet back and the deck is shuffled and redealt
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 06:51:53 PM »

Depends if the guy next to you has call/raise/passed. If they have, hand carries on. If not, misdeal.

Pretty fucking lol though. How can you forget to shuffle? Its 25% of the job
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 07:15:57 PM »

i thought as soon as there has been action, e.g. you making a raise then the hand must continue regardless of if there has been a misdeal of some sort? The dealer should have realised before obv, EPIC FAIL.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 02:48:33 AM »

I hope this was brought to the attention of the TD that was on. How new is the dealer if you know?
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 02:42:23 AM »

Surely your raise counts as a positive action therefore the hand has to be played out!! What actually happened?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 08:00:05 PM »

In that situation there has to be a possative and negative action before the hand has to play out.

E.g
Our hero here raises with AK UTG.
Next player folds.
Dealer realises their epic fail. But the hand still has to play out. As more than one type of action has occured.

Sadly for the hero as the dealer twigged before anymore action had taken place a miss deal can be called.

Stato, Im still really interested in who did this as is Mr Brodsky when I asked if he knew about this.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 08:07:13 PM »

In that situation there has to be a possative and negative action before the hand has to play out.

E.g
Our hero here raises with AK UTG.
Next player folds.
Dealer realises their epic fail. But the hand still has to play out. As more than one type of action has occured.

Sadly for the hero as the dealer twigged before anymore action had taken place a miss deal can be called.

Stato, Im still really interested in who did this as is Mr Brodsky when I asked if he knew about this.

Surely that's bullshit. What if there's a raise, a 3 bet, a 4 bet a 5 bet and an all in. You've only got one type of action there.

Are you saying someone has to fold before the hand plays out?
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 08:14:34 PM »

Let me check with Ryan that is what he said lastnight. I was pretty tired when he was explaining it to me and I might have made a minor mistake in recalling the ruling. Something does not sound right there reading it back. If so, i'm sorry for any aggro I may have caused in that post. Gimme an hour or two to get on a break.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 08:19:57 PM »

No aggro whatsoever.

I just had to argue the point because Gatso doesn't appear to available to put the world to rights on our behalf.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 08:23:38 PM »

From vague memory, action is considered to have taken place after the following:

3 folds
A single raise
Two limps
One limp and two folds

Or something very similar.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 08:25:39 PM »

I thought it was just two pieces of action had taken place, regardless of if it was 2 folds, a raise and a fold or anything.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 08:27:24 PM »

I thought it was just two pieces of action had taken place, regardless of if it was 2 folds, a raise and a fold or anything.

Did u used to deal at gala?
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 08:42:33 PM »

Pretty sure its 2 actions of any kind. TDs generally cba with remembering lots of stuff, so just make rules that can cover the majority Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 09:27:15 PM »

Its 2 actions. Sory about the mistake guys. I should have been sure I was right before posting.
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