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[SuuPRlim]

PokerStars Hand #78177702600: Tournament #566020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/04/01 22:53:44 CET [2012/04/01 16:53:44 ET]
Table '566020010 643' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Langben1 (16424 in chips)
Seat 2: Suuprlim (9295 in chips)
Seat 3: NEVADOS (29479 in chips)
Seat 4: Mikleler (6726 in chips)
Seat 6: bamboocha88 (6650 in chips)
Seat 7: Addictah (20830 in chips)
Seat 8: hdjgkfkgsdl (10616 in chips)
Seat 9: jerli (20111 in chips)
Langben1: posts the ante 40
Suuprlim: posts the ante 40
NEVADOS: posts the ante 40
Mikleler: posts the ante 40
bamboocha88: posts the ante 40
Addictah: posts the ante 40
hdjgkfkgsdl: posts the ante 40
jerli: posts the ante 40
hdjgkfkgsdl: posts small blind 200
jerli: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Suuprlim [ ]
Langben1: folds
Suuprlim: raises 600 to 1000
NEVADOS: folds
Mikleler: folds
bamboocha88: folds
Addictah: folds
hdjgkfkgsdl: calls 800
jerli: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
hdjgkfkgsdl: checks
Suuprlim: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
hdjgkfkgsdl: checks
Suuprlim: checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
hdjgkfkgsdl: checks
Suuprlim: bets .......


2400 ish in the pot, 8200 back in stacks

[outragous76]

bet flop

3365 now

[skolsuper]

bet 1050 on turn, as played bet 1050 on river instead.

[DMorgan]

bet 1050 on turn, as played bet 1050 on river instead.

I'd go 1045 but def agree with betting turn.

[skolsuper]

Also wtf lildave in nlhe mtt shocker? Nice opr btw

[outragous76]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

[TL900]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

he calls with like nothing if u bet 3365, cuz he never has anything more than a 1 pair hand. but yeah, as said, bet turn. Bet like 895 river as played.

[outragous76]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

he calls with like nothing if u bet 3365, cuz he never has anything more than a 1 pair hand. but yeah, as said, bet turn. Bet like 895 river as played.

so why wont he hero with 1 pair? - I obv disagree and do this alot - will post some up when I start playing again

[skolsuper]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

he calls with like nothing if u bet 3365, cuz he never has anything more than a 1 pair hand. but yeah, as said, bet turn. Bet like 895 river as played.

so why wont he hero with 1 pair? - I obv disagree and do this alot - will post some up when I start playing again

I actually think you'd be better off checking back than overbetting the pot here it's that bad.

[TL900]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

he calls with like nothing if u bet 3365, cuz he never has anything more than a 1 pair hand. but yeah, as said, bet turn. Bet like 895 river as played.

so why wont he hero with 1 pair? - I obv disagree and do this alot - will post some up when I start playing again

because the chances of hero overbet bluffing in this spot is <1%

[outragous76]

i like betting big here, because if he has something to call with, we might as well let him hero some of his range too

he calls with like nothing if u bet 3365, cuz he never has anything more than a 1 pair hand. but yeah, as said, bet turn. Bet like 895 river as played.

so why wont he hero with 1 pair? - I obv disagree and do this alot - will post some up when I start playing again

because the chances of hero overbet bluffing in this spot is <1%

makes it a great bet with our air then no?

[titaniumbean]

we've literally never got air when we check back flop and turn on this dry a texture.

I prob bet 875 or 1010 on the river if I got here like this.

[SuuPRlim]

Also wtf lildave in nlhe mtt shocker? Nice opr btw

Won't be happening again.

[TL900]

we've literally never got air when we check back flop and turn on this dry a texture.

this.

[SuuPRlim]

I dont see much point in discussing the flop, it's one of those where we bet it sometimes and chk it sometimes and it would defo be bad to have a stock where we ALWAYS bet, and ALWAYS check. I decided to check here.

As for the turn, I'm not 100% convinced we DEFO need to bet, I know we have to fold the river if he bets once we chk(but I doubt he's turning pairs that will never call us into bluffs) and we can no longer value bet but my problem with betting the turn is that I'm going to feel duty bound to bluff the river once I get called which seems quite risky and avoidable. I really think betting the turn and chking the river back is the nut low line. I defo see plenty of merit to a turn bet but im surprised so many people want it to be default in a tournament (but i have no clue )

The river though, a couple of people divided on this one, whilst no1 doubts that we have precious little air once we've not bet the A turn what can our villain possibly hero us with? he has just a handful of Qx's that can call assuming he bets most Ax's for value OTR. He has 66-TT prolly but v unlikely to call with those.

What I actually did was

I actually think you'd be better off checking back than overbetting the pot here it's that bad.

pretty much instantly went all in.