Iso, facing largeish 3bet.

[c4ught]

Limper is limping 35% of hands over a 110+ sample.

3bettor is solid playing 15/12/3 over same sample.

Poker Stars, $91 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12407102

UTG+2: 6,364 (42.4 bb)
MP1: 12,791 (85.3 bb)
MP2: 5,335 (35.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): 11,728 (78.2 bb)
CO: 11,127 (74.2 bb)
BTN: 8,895 (59.3 bb)
SB: 11,633 (77.6 bb)
BB: 10,504 (70 bb)
UTG+1: 13,133 (87.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 77+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,ATo+,KQo Something along those lines, it may be a little wider given how much the MP1 is calling.

2 folds,
MP1 calls 150, MP2 folds,
Hero raises to 450, 3 folds,
BB raises to 1,450, MP1 folds,
Hero

Do we 4bet fold anything in the above range?
Possibly be easier to post the hand but we will see.

[outragous76]

presume limper folds?

have you iso'd this guy before?

just fold for me  -

[DMorgan]

Probably raising over the limper a lot wider than that but I think 4 bet bluffing here would be monumental spew.  Hating my life with JJ here.

[c4ught]

presume limper folds?

have you iso'd this guy before?

just fold for me  -

Yes.

No.

Thats what I should of done.

Probably raising over the limper a lot wider than that but I think 4 bet bluffing here would be monumental spew.  Hating my life with JJ here.

Well You got the correct hand! I didnt quite do a mega spew though  

Poker Stars, $91 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12407102

UTG+2: 6,364 (42.4 bb)
MP1: 12,791 (85.3 bb)
MP2: 5,335 (35.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): 11,728 (78.2 bb)
CO: 11,127 (74.2 bb)
BTN: 8,895 (59.3 bb)
SB: 11,633 (77.6 bb)
BB: 10,504 (70 bb)
UTG+1: 13,133 (87.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J J
2 folds, MP1 calls 150, MP2 folds, Hero raises to 450, 3 folds, BB raises to 1,450, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 3,000, BB raises to 10,484 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 6,405 pot
BB mucked and won 6,405 (3,385 net)

[DMorgan]

Meh, definitely getting QQ in and folding TT.

JJ depends how the session has been going

[pleno1]

you definitely took the nut worst option.


call >>> 4b/call >>> fold >>> 4b/fold.

[c4ught]

you definitely took the nut worst option.


call >>> 4b/call >>> fold >>> 4b/fold.

Definitely did and to make it worst my 3000 bet doesn't really do anything at all it looks weak when i was trying to look mega strong.

On reflection I think folding is better than 4b/call given how the table has played out and vs this player.